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Re: [PATCH RFC v2 00/12] virtio-net: add support for SR-IOV emulation


From: Akihiko Odaki
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 00/12] virtio-net: add support for SR-IOV emulation
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 17:29:37 +0900
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On 2023/12/11 16:26, Jason Wang wrote:
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 1:30 PM Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com> wrote:

On 2023/12/11 11:52, Jason Wang wrote:
On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 12:06 PM Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com> wrote:

Introduction
------------

This series is based on the RFC series submitted by Yui Washizu[1].
See also [2] for the context.

This series enables SR-IOV emulation for virtio-net. It is useful
to test SR-IOV support on the guest, or to expose several vDPA devices
in a VM. vDPA devices can also provide L2 switching feature for
offloading though it is out of scope to allow the guest to configure
such a feature.

The PF side code resides in virtio-pci. The VF side code resides in
the PCI common infrastructure, but it is restricted to work only for
virtio-net-pci because of lack of validation.

User Interface
--------------

A user can configure a SR-IOV capable virtio-net device by adding
virtio-net-pci functions to a bus. Below is a command line example:
    -netdev user,id=n -netdev user,id=o
    -netdev user,id=p -netdev user,id=q
    -device pcie-root-port,id=b
    -device virtio-net-pci,bus=b,addr=0x0.0x3,netdev=q,sriov-pf=f
    -device virtio-net-pci,bus=b,addr=0x0.0x2,netdev=p,sriov-pf=f
    -device virtio-net-pci,bus=b,addr=0x0.0x1,netdev=o,sriov-pf=f
    -device virtio-net-pci,bus=b,addr=0x0.0x0,netdev=n,id=f

The VFs specify the paired PF with "sriov-pf" property. The PF must be
added after all VFs. It is user's responsibility to ensure that VFs have
function numbers larger than one of the PF, and the function numbers
have a consistent stride.

This seems not user friendly. Any reason we can't just allow user to
specify the stride here?

It should be possible to assign addr automatically without requiring
user to specify the stride. I'll try that in the next version.


Btw, I vaguely remember qemu allows the params to be accepted as a
list. If this is true, we can accept a list of netdev here?

Yes, rocker does that. But the problem is not just about getting
parameters needed for VFs, which I forgot to mention in the cover letter
and will explain below.



Keeping VF instances
--------------------

A problem with SR-IOV emulation is that it needs to hotplug the VFs as
the guest requests. Previously, this behavior was implemented by
realizing and unrealizing VFs at runtime. However, this strategy does
not work well for the proposed virtio-net emulation; in this proposal,
device options passed in the command line must be maintained as VFs
are hotplugged, but they are consumed when the machine starts and not
available after that, which makes realizing VFs at runtime impossible.

Could we store the device options in the PF?

I wrote it's to store the device options, but the problem is actually
more about realizing VFs at runtime instead of at the initialization time.

Realizing VFs at runtime have two major problems. One is that it delays
the validations of options; invalid options will be noticed when the
guest requests to realize VFs.

If PCI spec allows the failure when creating VF, then it should not be
a problem.

I doubt the spec cares such a failure at all. VF enablement should always work for a real hardware. It's neither user-friendly to tell configuration errors at runtime.


netdevs also warn that they are not used
at initialization time, not knowing that they will be used by VFs later.

We could invent things to calm down this false positive.

References to other QEMU objects in the option may also die before VFs
are realized.

Is there any other thing than netdev we need to consider?

You will also want to set a distinct mac for each VF. Other properties does not matter much in my opinion.



The other problem is that QEMU cannot interact with the unrealized VFs.
For example, if you type "device_add virtio-net-pci,id=vf,sriov-pf=pf"
in HMP, you will expect "device_del vf" works, but it's hard to
implement such behaviors with unrealized VFs.

I think hotplug can only be done at PF level if we do that.

Assuming you mean to let netdev and mac accept arrays, yes.



I was first going to compromise and allow such quirky behaviors, but I
realized such a compromise is unnecessary if we reuse the PCI power down
logic so I wrote v2.

Haven't checked the code, but anything related to the PM here?

You mean power management? We don't have to care about PCI power down for VFs because powering down a SR-IOV PCI device will reset it and thus disable its VFs.

Regards,
Akihiko Odaki



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