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Re: [Qemu-devel] POLL: Why do you use kqemu?


From: Avi Kivity
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] POLL: Why do you use kqemu?
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:03:19 +0300
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Jamie Lokier wrote:
Plus kvm's not suitable for some guests.  I'm thinking old Windows
guests with 16-bit kernel code here.
kvm on amd will run these perfectly.

So the "Guest Support Status" prominently on the front page of
linux-kvm.org is wrong for current versions?  It specifically mentions
AMD hosts.

(I notice AMD KVM != Intel KVM hasn't factored into this discussion yet...)

Guest           KVM tested             Host CPU/bits    Result
----------------------------------------------------------------
Windows 98SE    kvm-63                 Intel 32         Fails
Windows 98SE    kvm-80, 2.6.27.7       AMD 64           no way
Windows 95      kvm-44, 2.6.23-rc8     AMD 64, 32       no way

Well, maybe there's some other bug in there. But kvm-amd 16 bit support is as good as the native cpu's. kvm-intel with the new 'unrestricted guest' should be the same.

It has come up before that kvm will eventually support 16-bit code
better, although I got the impression that it would never support full
16-bit virtualisation accurately, so e.g. Windows 95 will not run on
it, nor some other partially 16-bit OSes.  Possibly not even very old
versions of Linux, I'm not sure.

Don't ask me _why_ I want to run them. :-)

Just a data point that it's not just about the host hardware, and as
far as I know kqemu can accelerate them.
It falls back to qemu for 16-bit code.

I was under the impression it was planned to remove TCG support when
using KVM.  If not, fine, it's ok for 16-bit code to run in TCG and
probably better than vm86 or the in-kernel interpreter.

vm86 doesn't work on x86_64. kvm will run most 16-bit code natively, just have to complete task switch support and fix any bugs.

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