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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] Add GTK UI to enable basic accessibility (v
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Jan Kiszka |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] Add GTK UI to enable basic accessibility (v2) |
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Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:21:04 +0100 |
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On 2012-02-27 00:46, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> I realize UIs are the third rail of QEMU development, but over the years I've
> gotten a lot of feedback from users about our UI. I think everyone struggles
> with the SDL interface and its lack of discoverability but it's worse than I
> think most people realize for users that rely on accessibility tools.
>
> The two pieces of feedback I've gotten the most re: accessibility are the lack
> of QEMU's enablement for screen readers and the lack of configurable
> accelerators.
>
> Since we render our own terminal using a fixed sized font, we don't respect
> system font settings which means we ignore if the user has configured large
> print.
>
> We also don't integrate at all with screen readers which means that for blind
> users, the virtual consoles may as well not even exist.
>
> We also don't allow any type of configuration of accelerators. For users with
> limited dexterity (this is actually more common than you would think), they
> may
> use an input device that only inputs one key at a time. Holding down two keys
> at once is not possible for these users.
>
> These are solved problems though and while we could reinvent all of this
> ourselves with SDL, we would be crazy if we did. Modern toolkits, like GTK,
> solve these problems.
>
> By using GTK, we can leverage VteTerminal for screen reader integration and
> font
> configuration. We can also use GTK's accelerator support to make accelerators
> configurable (Gnome provides a global accelerator configuration interface).
>
> I'm not attempting to make a pretty desktop virtualization UI. Maybe we'll go
> there eventually but that's not what this series is about.
>
> This is just attempting to use a richer toolkit such that we can enable basic
> accessibility support. As a consequence, the UI is much more usable even for
> a
> user without accessibility requirements so it's a win-win.
>
> Also available at:
>
> https://github.com/aliguori/qemu/tree/gtk.2
>
> ---
> v1 -> v2
> - Add internationalization support. I don't actually speak any other
> languages
> so I added a placeholder for a German translation. This can be tested with
> LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8 qemu-system-x86_64
> - Fixed the terminal size for VteTerminal widgets. I think the behavior
> makes
> sense now.
> - Fixed lots of issues raised in review comments (see individual patches)
>
> Known Issues:
> - I saw the X crash once. I think it has to do with widget sizes. I need to
> work harder to reproduce.
> - I've not recreated the reported memory leak yet.
> - I haven't added backwards compatibility code for older VteTerminal widgets
> yet.
Looks quite nice but still has some rough edges:
- full screen doesn't work, at least here
- lacking support for auto-grabbing in absolute mouse mode
- unscaling (ctrl-alt-u) is lacking
- window not resizable (except in broken full-screen mode)
Will see if I find some time to look into this.
Is this also working properly under Windows? Otherwise we probably can't
deprecate SDL - or would have to provide a native Windows GUI.
As we have a menu now, I would suggest to add some handy monitor
commands there as well, like reset or powerdown.
Jan
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- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] gtk: add virtual console support (v2), (continued)
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] gtk: add virtual console support (v2), Anthony Liguori, 2012/02/26
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] ui: add basic GTK gui (v2), Anthony Liguori, 2012/02/26
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] gtk: add support for input grabbing, Anthony Liguori, 2012/02/26
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8] gtk: add support for screen scaling and full screen (v2), Anthony Liguori, 2012/02/26
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/8] gtk: add translation support, Anthony Liguori, 2012/02/26
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/8] gtk: make default UI, Anthony Liguori, 2012/02/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] Add GTK UI to enable basic accessibility (v2), malc, 2012/02/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] Add GTK UI to enable basic accessibility (v2),
Jan Kiszka <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] Add GTK UI to enable basic accessibility (v2), Anthony Liguori, 2012/02/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] Add GTK UI to enable basic accessibility (v2), Jan Kiszka, 2012/02/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] Add GTK UI to enable basic accessibility (v2), Anthony Liguori, 2012/02/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] Add GTK UI to enable basic accessibility (v2), Jan Kiszka, 2012/02/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] Add GTK UI to enable basic accessibility (v2), Anthony Liguori, 2012/02/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] Add GTK UI to enable basic accessibility (v2), Jan Kiszka, 2012/02/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] Add GTK UI to enable basic accessibility (v2), Gerd Hoffmann, 2012/02/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] Add GTK UI to enable basic accessibility (v2), Anthony Liguori, 2012/02/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] Add GTK UI to enable basic accessibility (v2), Gerd Hoffmann, 2012/02/27
Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] Add GTK UI to enable basic accessibility (v2), Kevin Wolf, 2012/02/27