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Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] decodetree: Add an optional predicate-function for de
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Alistair Francis |
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Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] decodetree: Add an optional predicate-function for decoding |
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Thu, 13 Jan 2022 15:06:52 +1000 |
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 1:42 AM Philipp Tomsich
<philipp.tomsich@vrull.eu> wrote:
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> Alistair,
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> Do you (and the other RISC-V custodians of target/riscv) have any opinion on
> this?
> We can go either way — and it boils down to a style and process question.
Sorry, it's a busy week!
I had a quick look over this series and left some comments below.
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> Thanks,
> Philipp.
>
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 12:30, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <f4bug@amsat.org> wrote:
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>> On 1/10/22 12:11, Philipp Tomsich wrote:
>> > On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 11:03, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <f4bug@amsat.org
>> > <mailto:f4bug@amsat.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 1/10/22 10:52, Philipp Tomsich wrote:
>> > > For RISC-V the opcode decode will change between different vendor
>> > > implementations of RISC-V (emulated by the same qemu binary).
>> > > Any two vendors may reuse the same opcode space, e.g., we may end
>> > up with:
>> > >
>> > > # *** RV64 Custom-3 Extension ***
>> > > {
>> > > vt_maskc 0000000 ..... ..... 110 ..... 1111011 @r
>> > |has_xventanacondops_p
>> > > vt_maskcn 0000000 ..... ..... 111 ..... 1111011 @r
>> > |has_xventanacondops_p
>> > > someone_something ............ ..... 000 ..... 1100111 @i
>> > > |has_xsomeonesomething_p
>> > > }
I don't love this. If even a few vendors use this we could have a huge
number of instructions here
>> > >
>> > > With extensions being enabled either from the commandline
>> > > -cpu any,xventanacondops=true
>> > > or possibly even having a AMP in one emulation setup (e.g.
>> > application
>> > > cores having one extension and power-mangement cores having a
>> > > different one — or even a conflicting one).
Agreed, an AMP configuration is entirely possible.
>> >
>> > I understand, I think this is what MIPS does, see commit 9d005392390:
>> > ("target/mips: Introduce decodetree structure for NEC Vr54xx
>> > extension")
>> >
>> >
>> > The MIPS implementation is functionally equivalent, and I could see us
>> > doing something similar for RISC-V (although I would strongly prefer to
>> > make everything explicit via the .decode-file instead of relying on
>> > people being aware of the logic in decode_op).
>> >
>> > With the growing number of optional extensions (as of today, at least
>> > the Zb[abcs] and vector comes to mind), we would end up with a large
>> > number of decode-files that will then need to be sequentially called
>> > from decode_op(). The predicates can then move up into decode_op,
>> > predicting the auto-generated decoders from being invoked.
>> >
>> > As of today, we have predicates for at least the following:
>> >
>> > * Zb[abcs]
>> > * Vectors
I see your point, having a long list of decode_*() functions to call
is a hassle. On the other hand having thousands of lines in
insn32.decode is also a pain.
In saying that, having official RISC-V extensions in insn32.decode and
vendor instructions in insn<vendor>.decode seems like a reasonable
compromise. Maybe even large extensions (vector maybe?) could have
their own insn<extension>.decode file, on a case by case basis.
>> >
>> > As long as we are in greenfield territory (i.e. not dealing with
>> > HINT-instructions that overlap existing opcode space), this will be fine
>> > and provide proper isolation between the .decode-tables.
>> > However, as soon as we need to implement something along the lines (I
>> > know this is a bad example, as prefetching will be a no-op on qemu) of:
>> >
>> > {
>> > {
>> > # *** RV32 Zicbop Sandard Extension (hints in the ori-space) ***
>> > prefetch_i ....... 00000 ..... 110 00000 0010011 @cbo_pref
>> > prefetch_r ....... 00001 ..... 110 00000 0010011 @cbo_pref
>> > prefetch_w ....... 00011 ..... 110 00000 0010011 @cbo_pref
>> > }
>> > ori ............ ..... 110 ..... 0010011 @i
>> > }
>> >
>> > we'd need to make sure that the generated decoders are called in the
>> > appropriate order (i.e. the decoder for the specialized instructions
>> > will need to be called first), which would not be apparent from looking
>> > at the individual .decode files.
>> >
>> > Let me know what direction we want to take (of course, I have a bias
>> > towards the one in the patch).
>>
>> I can't say for RISCV performance, I am myself biased toward maintenance
>> where having one compilation unit per (vendor) extension.
>> ARM and MIPS seems to go in this direction, while PPC and RISCV in the
>> other one.
I think we could do both right?
We could add the predicate support, but also isolate vendors to their
own decode file
So for example, for vendor abc
+++ b/target/riscv/insnabc.decode
+# *** Custom abc Extension ***
+{
+ vt_maskc 0000000 ..... ..... 110 ..... 1111011 @r |has_abc_c
+ vt_maskcn 0000000 ..... ..... 111 ..... 1111011 @r |has_abc_d
+}
Then there is a decode_abc(), but we support extension abc_c and abc_d
That way we can keep all the vendor code seperate, while still
allowing flexibility. Will that work?
We can also then use predicate support for the standard RISC-V
extensions as described by Philipp
Alistair
- [PATCH v1 1/2] decodetree: Add an optional predicate-function for decoding, Philipp Tomsich, 2022/01/09
- [PATCH v1 2/2] target/riscv: Add XVentanaCondOps custom extension, Philipp Tomsich, 2022/01/09
- Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] decodetree: Add an optional predicate-function for decoding, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, 2022/01/10
- Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] decodetree: Add an optional predicate-function for decoding, Philipp Tomsich, 2022/01/10
- Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] decodetree: Add an optional predicate-function for decoding, Philipp Tomsich, 2022/01/10
- Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] decodetree: Add an optional predicate-function for decoding, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, 2022/01/10
- Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] decodetree: Add an optional predicate-function for decoding, Philipp Tomsich, 2022/01/10
- Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] decodetree: Add an optional predicate-function for decoding, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, 2022/01/10
- Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] decodetree: Add an optional predicate-function for decoding, Philipp Tomsich, 2022/01/12
- Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] decodetree: Add an optional predicate-function for decoding,
Alistair Francis <=
- Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] decodetree: Add an optional predicate-function for decoding, Philipp Tomsich, 2022/01/13
- Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] decodetree: Add an optional predicate-function for decoding, Alistair Francis, 2022/01/14