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Re: [RFC PATCH v4 0/7] Add Rust support, implement ARM PL011


From: Daniel P . Berrangé
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 0/7] Add Rust support, implement ARM PL011
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 13:18:15 +0100
User-agent: Mutt/2.2.12 (2023-09-09)

On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 09:54:43AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 9:38 AM Manos Pitsidianakis
> <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org> wrote:
> > Ah, alright. That wasn't obvious because that e-mail was not directed
> > to me nor did it mention my name :)
> 
> Oh, ok. Sorry about that. Generally when I say "we" I include as large
> a part of the community as applicable.
> 
> > I do not want to do that, in any case. I do not think it's the right 
> > approach.
> 
> No problem with that (and in fact I agree, as I'd prefer a speedy
> merge and doing the work on the QEMU master branch); however, we need
> to reach an agreement on that and everybody (including Daniel) needs
> to explain the reason for their position.
> 
> Daniel's proposed criteria for merging include:
> - CI integration
> - CI passing for all supported targets (thus lowering the MSRV to 1.63.0)
> - plus any the code changes that were or will be requested during review
> 
> That seems to be a pretty high amount of work, and until it's done
> everyone else is unable to contribute, not even in directions
> orthogonal to the above (cross compilation support, less unsafe code,
> porting more devices).

My thought is that the initial merge focuses only on the build system
integration. So that's basically patches 1 + 2 in this series.

IMHO that is small enough that we should be able to demonstrate that
we detect Rust, run bindgen & compile its result, on all our supported
platforms without an unreasonable amount of effort.

>                         So something has to give: either we decide for
> an early merge, where the code is marked as experimental and disabled
> by default. Personally I think it's fine, the contingency plan is
> simply to "git rm -rf rust/". Or we can keep the above stringent
> requirements for merging, but then I don't see it as a one-person job.

Patch 3, the high level APIs is where I see most of the work and
collaboration being needed, but that doesn't need to be rushed into
the first merge. We would have a "rust" subsystem + maintainer who
would presumably have a staging tree, etc in the normal way we work
and collaborate

With regards,
Daniel
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