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Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] i386/sev: Add KVM_EXIT_SNP_REQ_CERTS support for cert
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Daniel P . Berrangé |
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Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] i386/sev: Add KVM_EXIT_SNP_REQ_CERTS support for certificate-fetching |
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Thu, 19 Dec 2024 13:37:18 +0000 |
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Mutt/2.2.13 (2024-03-09) |
On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 07:16:01AM -0600, Michael Roth wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 08:13:44AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 04:29:51PM -0600, Michael Roth wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 05:50:52PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 09:49:39AM -0600, Michael Roth wrote:
> > > > > The GHCB specification[1] defines a VMGEXIT-based Guest Request
> > > > > hypercall to allow an SNP guest to issue encrypted requests directly
> > > > > to
> > > > > SNP firmware to do things like query the attestation report for the
> > > > > guest. These are generally handled purely in the kernel.
> > > > >
> > > > > In some some cases, it's useful for the host to be able to
> > > > > additionally
> > > > > supply the certificate chain for the signing key that SNP firmware
> > > > > uses
> > > > > to sign these attestation reports. To allow for this, the GHCB
> > > > > specification defines an Extended Guest Request where this certificate
> > > > > data can be provided in a special format described in the GHCB spec.
> > > > > This certificate data may be global or guest-specific depending on how
> > > > > the guest was configured. Rather than providing interfaces to manage
> > > > > these within the kernel, KVM provides a new KVM_EXIT_SNP_REQ_CERTS
> > > > > exit
> > > > > to request the certificate contents from userspace. Implement support
> > > > > for that here.
> > > > >
> > > > > To synchronize delivery of the certificates to the guest in a way
> > > > > where
> > > > > they will not be rendered invalid by updates to SNP firmware or
> > > > > attestation singing/endorsement keys by management tools outside the
> > > > > purview of QEMU, it is expected by users of KVM_EXIT_SNP_REQ_CERTS to
> > > > > obtain a shared/read lock on the certificate file prior to delivering
> > > > > them back to KVM. Only after this will the attestation report be
> > > > > retrieved from firmware and bundled with the certificate data, so QEMU
> > > > > must continue to hold the file lock until KVM confirms that the
> > > > > attestation report has been retrieved/bundled. This confirmation is
> > > > > done
> > > > > by way of the kvm_immediate_exit callback infrastructure that was
> > > > > introduced in a previous patch.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] "Guest Hypervisor Communication Block (GHCB) Standardization",
> > > > > https://www.amd.com/en/developer/sev.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > > qapi/qom.json | 23 +++-
> > > > > target/i386/kvm/kvm.c | 10 ++
> > > > > target/i386/sev-sysemu-stub.c | 5 +
> > > > > target/i386/sev.c | 249
> > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > target/i386/sev.h | 2 +
> > > > > 5 files changed, 288 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/qapi/qom.json b/qapi/qom.json
> > > > > index 28ce24cd8d..6eaf0e7721 100644
> > > > > --- a/qapi/qom.json
> > > > > +++ b/qapi/qom.json
> > > > > @@ -1034,6 +1034,25 @@
> > > > > # firmware. Set this to true to disable the use of VCEK.
> > > > > # (default: false) (since: 9.1)
> > > > > #
> > > > > +# @certs-path: Path to certificate data that can be passed to guests
> > > > > via
> > > > > +# SNP Extended Guest Requests. File should be in the
> > > > > format
> > > > > +# described in the GHCB specification. (default: none)
> > > > > +# (since: 10.0)
> > > >
> > > > Can we document the required format here explicitly, rather than
> > > > expecting
> > > > users to go searching for specs which are often practically impossible
> > > > to find, and even harder to read & interpret ?
> > >
> > > It'll be difficult to summarize in a way that will be self-reliant,
> > > since knowing the certificate format is not sufficient to make sure
> > > it coincides with the endorsement key being used by firmware. So I can't
> > > promise to completely reduce reliance on external specs, but at least
> > > give a better of the format and where those external specs will come
> > > into play in filling out the data.
> > >
> > > If it needs to be at least somewhat self-sufficient then that might
> > > warrant a separate document in docs/system/i386/amd-memory-encryption.rst
> > > or somewhere thereabouts that summarizes the whole attestation flow and
> > > how certificates tie into that.
> > >
> > > Any preferences?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/target/i386/sev.c b/target/i386/sev.c
> > > > > index 1a4eb1ada6..2c41bdbccf 100644
> > > > > --- a/target/i386/sev.c
> > > > > +++ b/target/i386/sev.c
> > > > > @@ -157,6 +157,9 @@ struct SevSnpGuestState {
> > > > > char *id_auth_base64;
> > > > > uint8_t *id_auth;
> > > > > char *host_data;
> > > > > + char *certs_path;
> > > > > + int certs_fd;
> > > > > + uint32_t certs_timeout;
> > > > >
> > > > > struct kvm_sev_snp_launch_start kvm_start_conf;
> > > > > struct kvm_sev_snp_launch_finish kvm_finish_conf;
> > > > > @@ -1355,6 +1358,215 @@ sev_snp_launch_finish(SevCommonState
> > > > > *sev_common)
> > > > > }
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > +static int open_certs_locked(SevSnpGuestState *sev_snp_guest)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > + int fd, ret;
> > > > > +
> > > > > + if (sev_snp_guest->certs_fd != -1) {
> > > > > + return 0;
> > > > > + }
> > > > > +
> > > > > + fd = qemu_open(sev_snp_guest->certs_path, O_RDONLY, NULL);
> > > > > + if (fd == -1) {
> > > > > + error_report("Unable to open certificate blob at path %s,
> > > > > ret %d",
> > > > > + sev_snp_guest->certs_path, fd);
> > > > > + return fd;
> > > > > + }
> > > > > +
> > > > > + ret = qemu_lock_fd(fd, 0, 0, false);
> > > > > + if (ret == -EAGAIN || ret == -EACCES) {
> > > > > + ret = -EAGAIN;
> > > > > + goto out_close;
> > > > > + } else if (ret) {
> > > > > + goto out_close;
> > > > > + }
> > > >
> > > > This locking scheme is likely unsafe. Consider this sequence
> > > >
> > > > * QEMU runs qemu_open(path)
> > > > * External mgmt app runs unlink(path)
> > > > * External mgmt app runs open(path)
> > > > * External mgmt app runs lock(fd)
> > > > * QEMU runs qemu_lock_fd(fd)
> > > >
> > > > QEMU has successfully acquired a lock on an FD that corresponds to a
> > > > deleted file, not the current existing file.
> > > >
> > > > Avoiding this problem requires either that the external mgmt app agrees
> > > > to *NEVER* unlink() the files under any circumstance, or for QEMU to
> > > > run its open + lock logic in a loop, checking 'stat' and 'fstat' before
> > > > opening and after locking, in order to detect a replaced file from its
> > > > changed inode.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not inclined to rely on mgmt apps never unlink()ing as that's to
> > > > easy to mess up IMHO.
> > >
> > > Yah I went into more detail in my response to Markus, but long story
> > > short is that we are assuming mgmt is cooperative in this case, and
> > > so as you mentioned, it would never unlink files while SNP guests are
> > > running, but instead take an exclusive lock on them and update them in
> > > place with the understanding that doing anything otherwise would open
> > > a race window where guests might get stale certificates.
> >
> > If there's an expectation & requirement that no SNP guests are running,
> > then IMHO this whole thing is just over-engineered. Just remove all this
> > locking code entirely, and document that none of this must be changed
> > while QEMU is running - which is a common requirement for a great many
> > things on the host.
>
> VCEK endorsement keys can change as a result of SNP firmware updates,
> which can be done while SNP guests are running and are often done in such
> a way to patch bugs/security holes. VLEK endorsement keys can similarly be
> updated on a live host. Both these sorts of interactions cannot be made
> compatible with bundling certificates with attestation reports without some
> orchestration in place to keep them atomic relative to the endorsement
> key being used by firmware to sign attestation reports. Every CSP
> implementing this will need to solve it in some way, and I'm sure some
> will handle all this completely differently. But it will make
> interoperative management/tooling a mess, and having a reference
> implementation based around something common will make it easier to
> steer CSPs to that common solution and give management tools authors
> *some* reference approach to target rather than expecting to retrofit
> some custom solution on top.
>
> With these patches, you can update firmware and endorsement keys while
> SNP guests are running, but it requires write locks on any active
> certificates as defined here and in the kernel, and doing certificate
> file updates in place while that write lock is still held. I don't really
> think that's over-engineered. I think it's surprisingly simple given the
> potential complexity of the above-mentioned requirements.
>
> But yes if management tries to unlink certificates while SNP guests are
> running, all bets are off. But at that point they are not cooperating
> with kernel/QEMU, and we don't need to care about that. And if they
> really do need to blow away certificates for a complete re-install
> or data-wipe or whatever, at that point they'd just need to ensure
> they stop all their SNP guests first.
IMHO we msut consider unlink() to be a valid thing, because the right
way for apps to perform crash safe atomic updates of existing files,
is to use rename() from a temporary file, and the rename() in has an
implicit unlink as part of its operation. ie apps would be doing:
fd = open("foo.tmp")
write(fd, ...)
fsync(fd)
close(fd)
rename("foo.tmp", "foo")
That final rename operation will have the same effect on the locks
as unlink(). To cope with this anything doing locking has to run
in a loop comparing the inode either side of acquiring the lock
TLDR: if we're going to do locking in QEMU, it needs to be done
robustly.
With regards,
Daniel
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- Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] i386/sev: Add KVM_EXIT_SNP_REQ_CERTS support for certificate-fetching, Daniel P . Berrangé, 2024/12/19