Re: [Social] Fwd: GNU/social legacy

[hellekin]

On 12/12/2012 07:46 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
> 
> 
> I dont have a problem with 404s , they show that the web is constantly
> changing.  It is hard for a system as big as the web could survive
> without something like a 404.  I like a degree of fault tolerance.
>
*** As much as I'm not interested, as a user, in the format of an image,
whether it's GIF, JPEG, or PNG, I'm not interested either on having my
information flow broken by obsolescence. The HTTP protocol contains
error codes to support redirections, and those should be used whenever
possible. But most of the time, they're not, digging holes in the
hypertext.

In contrast, Xanadu's design comes with unbreakable links, whatever you
can think about Ted Nelson or his project. So, it cannot be regarded as
a feature, but as a bug.

> 
> I would prefer:
> 
> address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden> at the User Interface level
>
*** The door open to spammers! The very fact that it *looks* like an
email means it will be harvested, and used, even if the chance that it's
actually not an email is non-zero: when it is, spam works.

Tg (from the Secushare project) commented recently that he "doesn't have
any issue with the identifier being the hash of a public key, as long as
the UI can alias it to something meaningful for the user, such as
address@hidden" I tend to agree with that statement. Dereferencing a
unique key is not out of scope.

> 
> An HTTP profile page listing data about the user using web standards.
>
*** It works, as you know, for FOAF. One issue I see is that it requires
an always-on connectivity to be useful. Otherwise, how can you
dereference a non-accessible resource? Relying on third-parties is not
exactly the objective of decentralization. The Briar project might be
useful in that sense, as it relies on a pre-existing network of trust,
and uses cryptographic keys.

> 
> Yes.  The trust third party model and lock in are often deployed by
> businesses.  I actually think businesses would do better in the long
> term by allowing more user freedom.
>
*** I'm with Jacob Appelbaum and Dmitry Kleiner on that one: the
business model is surveillance[1], and trying to fix it requires true
decentralization. Hail StatusNet :)

> 
> I dont believe there is 'one social protocol to rule them all'.
>
*** I like diversity too :)

> 
> Lorea is one of my favourite projects, is caedes still on the team?
>
*** Definitely yes. He's not so present in the public because he's busy
with the local life, and prefers spending his computer time coding.

> You'll have to put me down as a heavy skeptic of OStatus.
> If it gets approved by any recognized standards body
>
*** Bittorrent didn't come from a standards body. I'm wondering why you
trust them to come up with the right stuff, especially as they're
dominated by megacorps, with obvious interests against decentralization.
The recent ITU conference in Dubai didn't show much progress in that
direction.

> or demonstrates good degrees of interop with systems other than
> itself, I'll be very happy to change opinion. 
>
*** I prefer that part :)

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hk

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