[Aleader-dev] Re: more about KM

[William L. Jarrold]

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 06:31:42PM -0500, William L. Jarrold wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
> > > I mean, is it really true that I can only make prepositions
> > > like (:triple f s v)?  That's nuts.  I'd be forced to move
> > > half of the stuff into lisp and call back & forth.  Maybe
> > > that's what I'll end up with.
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand what you are saying here.  There are
> > several possible interps.  One is that you have many non-binary
> > predicates in your model.  Is that what it is?
>
> Yes, I think so.  I bet OCC does too.
>
> > It is very likely that you are on the "same page" regarding this, but
> > just to be sure....The :triple thing is only necessary for certain stuff.
> > Many rules can be written without it....but as I said, you already know
> > that, right?
>
> Yah, but any predicate is attached to a frame slot, correct?

Not sure what you are getting at here.  But, given other stuff you've said
below, I think you agree that delving into this level of technical detail
is premature right now.

>
> > Anyway, this reaction of yours argues in favor of CycL.  I am much more
> > familiar with Cyc than KM.
> >
> > > Do you have any experience with PowerLoom?  I'm going to play
> > > with it for a few days and see how it feels.
> >
> > No experience.  Chances are pretty good that it sucks compared to CycL.
> > What is its licensing?
>
> Complete source code is available for non-commercial use.  (Licensing
> is the only reason I'm not immediately using Cyc.)

Hmm.  Not sure I am "on the same page" as you here...I know that OpenCyc
is associated with Lesser GPL.  I don't really know what lesser GPL
entails.  I don't know the difference between "licensing" and "available
for non-commercial use".  Possibly this too is too detailed stuff to
concern you and I, espec given my tepid response rate.

>
> PowerLoom seems much more similar to Cyc than KM.  I'm going to
> play with it more today.

I'm curious to hear how such experiments have gone.

>
> In any case, it's probably more important to finish up the rest
> of the pending emails before taking a look at PowerLoom.  I'm
> just giving you a clue what I'm working on.

Right.  I totally agree that it is more important to finish up rest
of pending emails.

And to re-iterate, lets try to get me caught up.  You abilities to resist
responding to my emails and to politely squeak now and again are greatly
appreciated.  Then lets try to resist further email chatter and focus on
one or two (or three??) specific deliverasble.s  Viritually all discussion
should focus on those.

Bill

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