Re: [avr-gcc-list] Preferred ICE (was: How to force GCC to not to remove "nop" statements?)

[David Kelly]

On Feb 19, 2009, at 9:44 PM, Graham Davies wrote:

> David Kelly wrote:
> > I have a Microchip 1000 or 2000 ICE thingy that cost about $2000  
> > and  was used for one project.  Given a choice I much prefer the  
> > ECROS
> > ICE Cube, avr-gcc, and of  course an AVR.
>
> Could I possibly quote that on the "User Testimonials" page, please?

Yes you may. But rather than call it a "Microchip 1000 or 2000 ICE  
thingy" I checked the closet and its an MPLAB ICE-2000. And appears  
the current price is $1000 but requires external pods or personality  
modules. Its significantly more capable than AVR JTAG as its a full  
emulator that replaces the target MCU. Its just that the software  
(back then) resembled Windows 3.0 and DOS. And turned out some of its  
instruction execution times were not the same as a stand alone chip.

Microchip has/had a "ICD" which is similar to Freescale BDM and AVD  
DebugWire but consumed some program space. But the ICD executed all  
code with proper timing as it was an enhanced monitor program. As I  
remember in the end I had to use a mix of the two Microchip  
development tools to get the job done.

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David Kelly N4HHE, address@hidden
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