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Re: use of locale in "ls" again (Re: Japanese expression of date)


From: Tomohiro KUBOTA
Subject: Re: use of locale in "ls" again (Re: Japanese expression of date)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 20:08:57 +0900
User-agent: Wanderlust/2.8.0 (Something-pre) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (Unebigoryƍmae) APEL/10.3 Emacs/20.7 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) MULE/4.1 (AOI)

Hi,

At Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:37:42 +0200,
Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> I don't think the .po files are relevant: isn't it true that the names of
> the months and the format of the date/time strings comes from the standard
> C library, not from gettext?  If that's true, the translators cannot fix
> that.

The fact that standard C library can supply translated month names but
cannot supply translated day names means the limitation of this model,
because the idea that we will need to translate month names while we
will not need to translate day names is Euro-American-centered idea.
Using gettext will supply better solution.  (In general, strftime()
can supply a good solution but now we have a limitation of column
numbers.)


> Emacs cannot do that because Emacs users want to see the directory
> listing in their native localized format, just as they would if they
> run "ls -la".

Yes.  People do want to see the directory listing in their native
localized format.  This is one of reasons why I insist that the date
format of 'ls -l' should be localized.  Now people here are discussing
about disabling localization of date format and use ISO format instead.

---
Tomohiro KUBOTA <address@hidden>
http://www.debian.or.jp/~kubota/
"Introduction to I18N"  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/intro-i18n/



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