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Re: [Bug-gnubg] gnubg defends poorly against outer primes
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Øystein Johansen |
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Re: [Bug-gnubg] gnubg defends poorly against outer primes |
Date: |
Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:43:06 +0100 |
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Misja Alma wrote:
Hi,
Hi!
Thanks for your observations. We're aware of the bad evaluations of
outside primes, but these kind of positions are extreamly hard to train.
I don't think JellyFish does thes kinds of positions any better, and
maybe not even Snowie. This is still a weak point of most bots. Thanks
anyway.
<quote>
..... I read in your excellent manual that ......
</quote>
Excellent manual? Where? Which manual are you talking about? ;-)
PS: importing the rollout trials into Snowie was quite a hassle,
> because the JellyFish .gam format does not support games which
> do not start from the initial position. So I had to create a
fake start of the game where finally my position would come up,
> and this start I had to paste at the start of every saved
> rollout trial.
Pasting in a fake start could be a simple solution with some scripting,
however I really believe JellyFish .gam format do support positions in
the game line, but I'm not sure if Snowie can import .gam files with
positions in it. (At least I don't think GNU backgammon can handle
positions in .gam files.)
Maybe someone can work out the format based on the last game of this match:
http://www.nbgf.no/matches/hans_karsten_nordic1997.mat
As far as I can see the only solution would be to implement an
> export to Snowie format? I read in an earlier post that Snowie
> .swm format is just a zipped Paradox database. So I tried to unzip
> such a file and open it in MS Access, but this gave an error message.
So does anybody know which kind of a Paradox database this is?
> Then I could perhaps make an attempt to write an export/ import
> function in Delphi..
It would be excellent if someone can work this out. I'm not sure if
anyone have tried this seriously, but I think it will be a hard and a
time consuming task.
Hei og hopp!
-Øystein
Re: [Bug-gnubg] gnubg defends poorly against outer primes, Joern Thyssen, 2003/11/24