Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?

[Bernhard Voelker]

On 02/13/2018 08:35 AM, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> If I got this correctly, then the folks to benefit from this change
> are GUI users, using copy-and-paste. Is this an argument to affect
> the command line users?

Well, unless one is working on a bare tty without X or via network,
I would guess that there is a terminal application like xterm,
gnome-terminal, a kde terminal, etc., involved in 99% of the cases.
Thus, there /is/ the possibility to use for copy/paste.

Furthermore, the quoting gives you immediate visual feedback that
there's something unusual in the corresponding file name.

> BTW, apparently the shell quoting-style in coreutils 8.26 (Stretch)

8.26 is quite old, and there have been further tweaks to the quoting
feature meanwhile (we're at 8.29).

> misses to properly quote iso8859 chars, e.g. German Umlaute. Sample:
>
> % ls --quoting-style=shell -al /tmp/Qual*
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Feb 13 08:27 '/tmp/Qualit?tssicherung final'

I'm not sure what's happening there, but it seems that your terminal
doesn't know how to display the 2-byte representation "c3 a4"; neither
gnome-terminal nor xterm have problems to display it here:

  $ /bin/ls -log /tmp/Q*
  -rw-r--r-- 1 0 Feb 15 07:59 '/tmp/Qualitätssicherung final'

  $ /bin/ls /tmp/Q* | od -tx1z
  0000000 2f 74 6d 70 2f 51 75 61 6c 69 74 c3 a4 74 73 73  >/tmp/Qualit..tss<
  0000020 69 63 68 65 72 75 6e 67 20 66 69 6e 61 6c 0a     >icherung final.<
  0000037

Have a nice day,
Berny