Re: [Denemo-devel] Lyric Entry.

[Richard Shann]

On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 19:56 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> I recall someone telling me that Finale had a cute feature for lyrics:
> each time you pressed a key it added another syllable from the
> selection. (So you can check on progress and fix problems as you go).
> I've written a script to do this, now in git.
> I've made the cursor right command perform the add another syllable
> function in this script - usually this is the arrow-right key.
I am not very impressed with how this works (it may not be quite right
in fact). But sleeping on it I can see a really good way of handling
lyrics - I'll write it up. Nils in particular will be thrilled as it
gives you text editor for the lyrics *and* multiple verses, *and* an
optional separate song sheet with just the words, with titles etc!

Richard



> 
> Richard
> 
> On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 19:22 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 15:11 +0200, Nils Gey wrote:
> > > On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:09:45 +0100
> > > Richard Shann <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 11:05 +0200, Nils Gey wrote:
> > > > > I still think its a better way not to put each syllable under each 
> > > > > note but start on the first note
> > > > do you mean stay on the first note?
> > > 
> > > Yes, stay on the first note. 
> > I think I fixed the bug (the _ signs) that caused you to go down that
> > route. Try the new features. They need some refinement (only spaces, not
> > whitespace works I think), but they should make life a lot easier. I was
> > prompted to do this work because I had to enter some lyrics and I
> > couldn't bear to enter it one syllable at a time invoking Insert/Edit
> > Lyric for each: I want to type the lyrics as they will appear under the
> > music.
> > I haven't ever done much with lyrics before, but Rameau's Les Indes
> > Galantes has just persuaded me otherwise.
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > > I have all the text in one place then. Of course it does not show the 
> > > right placement currently, which would be an additional feature request. 
> > > But I can imagine where they are very accurate and print preview is just 
> > > a second away. Denemo does not show how it will look, it only provides 
> > > easy ways... :)
> > > 
> > > Nils
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >  and then use the lilypond syntax with _ -- and so on.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have done this several times in Denemo now and its working. The 
> > > > > only bad thing
> > > > ?? if you do mean stay on the first note, then the display will not show
> > > > you which syllables will come on which note, which I would think is
> > > > crucial.
> > > > 
> > > > >  is the edit window which is just crap. Its would be a good start to 
> > > > > just 
> > > > Unfortunately this "just" hides a heap of C programming to assign the
> > > > syllables from the textbox to the notes. If you are not going to assign
> > > > them to the notes then the LilyPond window text box will suffice for a
> > > > text entry window for lyrics. (True, I haven't got round to making the
> > > > lyric output editable in that window, but then no-one has asked...)
> > > > 
> > > > Anyway, try the new continuous entry script: you just type hitting
> > > > return for each syllable and return on its own to stop. No mouse.
> > > > 
> > > > I think I will do the copy & paste as well, since the lyrics are often
> > > > already in text form and this will enable a simple script to let you
> > > > insert a syllable moving all the subsequent syllables along, or split a
> > > > syllable.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Richard
> > > > 
> > > > > make it not a single-line-widget but a multiline textbox.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nils
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:01:39 +0100
> > > > > Richard Shann <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > You can now script the lyric entry command:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > (d-EditScript "hello")
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > puts the lyric "hello" under the note at the cursor.
> > > > > > I just wanted to do some lyrics and saw how crude the interface was
> > > > > > (much worse than the one for entering figured basses!). So I 
> > > > > > finished
> > > > > > off this bit of the scheme interface.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > I may add a command for entering lyrics from the (text) selection -
> > > > > > there may be a guile function for getting the selection directly, 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > then it is just a matter of calling d-EditScript and d-NextNote for 
> > > > > > each
> > > > > > syllable.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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