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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GNURadio is disappointing [was: Greeting and a q


From: Rafael Diniz
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GNURadio is disappointing [was: Greeting and a question]
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:44:17 -0800 (PST)
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Hi there people,
I'd like to put my point here.
I'm a Computer Scientist and Ham radio operator that is entering in this
SDR world. I own a USRP with RFX900, WBX, dbxrx, tvrx, basicrx and
basictx.

ps: I don't make my monthly budget with anything related with SDR.

I already gave some talks and workshops on free software and open spectrum
in a SDR radio world paradigm, and I always say: USRP is the most
important and significant hardware made in the first decade of the 2000's,
and the Gnuradio is the most important software by the GNU project (I
already said that to Stallman), no doubt!
The USRP together with Gnuradio give us the opportunity to play with the
spectrum in a way never possible before. They allow us to be free in the
area of (social) communications.
I'm currently doing FM RDS, AM, SSB and also receiving DRM (Digital Radio
Mondiale) only using free software! With a software called spark I can
transmit DRM using the USRP. With OpenBTS free cellphone network are able
to exist.

I'm learning how to use USRP and Gnuradio for about three years, and I'm
more excited now then when I started playing with it.

For the Gnuradio and USRP developers: be sure you all are ahead of your time!
; )

Kind regards,
Rafael Diniz

> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 08:20:43AM +0530, Sanjay Singh wrote:
>> Its not about talking high. Its community of people trying hard to press
>> Ettus
>> Research products. Putting people down is not the motto of GNURadio.
>>
>> Regrading putting off from the list: Discussion is on for open source
>> platform.
>> This is GNURadio platform. Here discussions are open for Ettus Research
>> products and any other hardware product which can be used with GNURadio.
>>
>> Is GNURadio also owned by Ettus Research ?.
>>
>> Regarding your concern on keeping things focused;
>>
>> Things on GNURadio are not focused. That's the concern. When.open source
>> platform is the focus then everyone has the freedom to discuss open
>> platform
>> solution rather than promoting specific products for commercial needs.  
>
> I think this unfair in several ways.
> I'm not repeating what Brian said, he's right and there's enough
> redundancy here already.
>
> But all these open hardware threads seem to neglect that there's a
> powerful *software* tool out there for real-time signal processing, and
> a lot is happening at that end. GNU Radio is much more than the USRPs;
> in fact, it's *not even* the USRPs.
> I'm not quite sure what your email is trying to say. What I read is that
> GNU Radio's not going anywhere and that it's merely a tool to promote
> the selling of USRPs.
>
> Fact is, a lot of interesting things are going on. Stream tags were
> introduced in the 'next' branch, and ignored (or rather: blanked out by
> discussions on the price of USRPs), a feature which many had requested
> in the past. Quite a lot of signal processing has been added since
> version 3.2.2. So saying GNU Radio is disappointing is a bit unfair to
> those who actually maintain it, and disconcerting to those who (want to)
> use it.
>
> Talking of which: Who actually *does* use GNU Radio? I can't see a whole
> lot of active projects going on, not on this list or on CGRAN.
>
> However, I'm beginning to turn this into a general rant. I wonder if
> it's possible to turn this list back into a place where we can discuss
> the interesting parts of GNU Radio and GPP-based signal processing.
>
> And with all the drawbacks and bugs that GNU Radio has, there's nothing
> comparable in the open source domain. So if GNU Radio really sucks,
> then how about a proper discussion on what's wrong. And not about which
> HF-frontend costs how much.
>
> Bye,
> MB
>
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