Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Display Problem with QT GUI Vector Sink

[Simon Biehl]

Hi Marcus,

thanks for your detailed reply. I built your test case, which shows the 
same huge delays of ~2 minutes.
Surprisingly, changing the vector size to 1024 elements (=4096 bytes) 
yielded a much better result with delays going down to about 3 seconds.
Nevertheless I think I'll stick to to the workaround of using 'Vector to 
Stream' combined with a time sink, as this gives me the best 
responsiveness.
Performance counters and Thrift seem promising methods to further 
analyze this behavior, but as of now the idea of having to recompile and 
reinstall gnuradio isn't very tempting.

Thanks again for your help,
best regards,
Simon

Am 2015-09-07 13:18, schrieb Marcus Müller:
> Hi Simon,
>
> Is it possible, that the way my music_cf function is outputting the
> data, might cause some trouble?
>
> 181 floats isn't really a "round" itemsize, and since GNU Radio can 
> only
> build buffers that are multiple of 4KB (==4096B), I assume that you get
> a large buffer (probably 4096 items of size 181*sizeof(float) each).
> That per se is not a problem (maybe a loss of a few MB of RAM, but who
> cares in this day and age?); but things get large, and as you can see,
> latency can be pretty high. I remember seeing this a while back, when I
> was trying large (as in 50dBbin) FFTs with the vector sink; I kind of
> assumed visualizing a vector that is a couple of thousand times larger
> than my screen had pixels in x-direction would have been what 
> introduced
> the latency, so I didn't look into it.
>
> Attempt of building a test case, which might solve your issue, but is
> vastly bad design (because it just copies twice):
>
> music_cf->vector_to_stream->stream_to_vector->qt_vector_sink
>
> Could you try that?
>
> Next step, because this might be interesting: If you have both
> performance counters enabled and Thrift/gr-controlport, you could have 
> a
> look at the ctrlport performance monitor, which would tell you things
> like the average buffer fill, average work() run time, and variance of
> these numbers.
>
> Best regards,
> Marcus
>
>
> On 07.09.2015 12:44, address@hidden wrote:
> > The example is running without errors.
> > Is it possible, that the way my music_cf function is outputting the
> > data, might cause some trouble?
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > Am 2015-09-04 21:45, schrieb Martin Braun:
> > > There's an example for the vector sink, which doesn't seem to have 
> > > that
> > > issue. Can you confirm that? It's in gr-qtgui/examples.
> > >
> > > M
> > >
> > > PS: I had to locally fix the example, maybe you need to do that to, 
> > > the
> > > actual vector sink block was missing.
> > >
> > > On 04.09.2015 01:57, address@hidden wrote:
> > > > Hi Martin,
> > > >
> > > > averaging is disabled. Any further ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Simon
> > > >
> > > > Am 2015-09-03 18:49, schrieb Martin Braun:
> > > > > The vector sink has an averaging option, is that on?
> > > > >
> > > > > M
> > > > > On 03.09.2015 02:25, address@hidden wrote:
> > > > > > Dear all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I built an angle-of-arrival system using four Ettus USRP2. I'm
> > > > > > facing a
> > > > > > problem when trying to display a vector containing the calculated
> > > > > > MUSIC-Spectrum using a “QT GUI Vector Sink”. The vector sink won't
> > > > > > display any data for the first two minutes, and then it is
> > > > > > starting to
> > > > > > show very old values. When I use the block “Vector to Stream” and 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > simple “QT GUI Time Sink” instead, the values are displayed
> > > > > > immediately
> > > > > > without delay.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The block “music_cf” feeding the vector sink is a sync_decimator,
> > > > > > generating one vector of 181 elements for every 1000 input
> > > > > > samples. I've
> > > > > > provided a shortened version of my c++ code in the attachment,
> > > > > > without
> > > > > > the actual mathematics.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What could be the reason for this huge delay when using the “QT 
> > > > > > GUI
> > > > > > Vector Sink”? Is it a buffering problem?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > Simon
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Block Diagram:
> > > > > > http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150903/7cnqbzup.png
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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