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Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers]
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Andrew Sveikauskas |
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Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers] |
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Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:01:33 -0400 |
http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/
After reading this something occured to me. NeXTstep is very nice,
and via GNUstep I am well used to the way they do things. But a large
quantity of people (most?) who are newly exposed to GNUstep are not
looking to replace NeXTstep. This is probably what leads people to
periodically complain on the mailing list.
So, it seems the situation is like this:
* Faction A loves GNUstep for its NeXT goodness
* Faction B thinks GNUstep is out of place and should play nice with
other desktops.
* Probably some people believe both are true.
So, my thinking was, why not offer a few NSUserDefaults to appease B
above? This would include:
1. An option to have NSMenus appear within a window. It would mix
better with an existing X or Win32 desktop and would also help solve
the "GNUstep doesn't work with focus follows mouse" problem.
2. An option that makes all NSPanels visible regardless of what
application has focus. This would solve the other half of the
"GNUstep doesn't work with focus follows mouse" problem.
3. An option to not show the app icon.
These three options alone would probably make some people complain
less. But then I realized that, options to tweak the UI already
exist, yet people still complain about the "lack" of Mac-like menus,
etc. Maybe said people do not read documentation, or maybe they are
not well documented, but, it does raise an important point: there
needs to be a very clear, intuitive, idiot-proof way for new users to
change UI styles.
So my thought was very simple. It might be nice if gnustep-gui, upon
running an application for the first time, popped up a panel that
asked the user what kind of interface style they would want. There
they could click away (select NeXT Mac or Win style menus, don't
display the app icon, etc.) instead of being completely turned off by
a program that doesn't fit their WM or desktop.
- Re: really attracting developers, (continued)
- Re: really attracting developers, Rogelio Serrano, 2006/09/03
- Re: really attracting developers, phil taylor, 2006/09/03
- Re: really attracting developers, Andrew Sveikauskas, 2006/09/03
- Re: really attracting developers, Rogelio Serrano, 2006/09/03
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- Fwd: really attracting developers, Rogelio Serrano, 2006/09/04
- scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Marc Brünink, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Pete French, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Sašo Kiselkov, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Marc Brünink, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Charles Philip Chan, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers],
Andrew Sveikauskas <=
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Charles Philip Chan, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Andrew Sveikauskas, 2006/09/04
- Re: Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Nicolas Roard, 2006/09/04
- Re: Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], phil taylor, 2006/09/05
- Re: Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Charles Philip Chan, 2006/09/05
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Richard Frith-Macdonald, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], phil taylor, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Charles Philip Chan, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], phil taylor, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Chris Vetter, 2006/09/05