Re: Discuss-gnustep Digest, Vol 87, Issue 24

[Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf]

Am 16.02.2010 um 22:32 schrieb J. Jordan:

> Yeah, I see that now.  Sorry to waste all of you time, I see now  
> that this project has no future, the last thing the Open Source  
> world needs is another development environment.  I will continue to  
> search the web for usable GNUstep applications or whatever I should  
> call them since GNUstep is not  supposed to have any applications.   
> I'll stay off of this mailing list as best I can, but I am going to  
> have to keep using the apps-gnustep list because that is the only  
> place to get or give any advice on getting apps to run.  I will do  
> my best not to bother you GOD-LIKE develpers again.

Sorry, but there's no reason to to leave in a huff. I don't get the  
feeling somebody wanted to offend you (at least not on purpose). Let  
me explain: GNUstep historically has only very limited developer  
ressources and so it's perfectly o.k. to focus onto the most  
reasonable goal: Create an environment (API, Frameworks, toolkit,  
developer apps etc.) which enables others to port their (already  
existing) OpenStep/Cocoa apps to other plattforms using GNUstep (and  
so make them GNUstep apps in the process). There are plenty free and  
open source Cocoa apps out there:

http://mac.freshmeat.net/search/?Go.x=1&Go.y=1&q=cocoa&section=projects
http://sourceforge.net/search/? 
type_of_search=soft&words=cocoa&search=Search
http://code.google.com/query/#q=cocoa

waiting to be ported. Some of them might be hard to port (since they  
depend on some frameworks currently only available on the Mac) others  
might be easier. However, just to simplify porting of such apps  
GNUstep aims for Cocoa compatibility. The goal definitely isn't to  
build a Mac clone, the end justifies the means here (otherwise we  
could create something completely orthogonal to OpenStep/Cocoa and  
call this GNUstep).

You mentioned that having an article in the Linux Journal would be  
great. Nice idea! This is something that doesn't require developing  
skills (but some skills in writing). Maybe even you could do that.

It's just not the case that everybody here is sitting around not  
knowing what to do and waiting for instructions. Most of us are  
already quite busily involved into advancing GNUstep, and most of us  
got a day job too we have to justify, so the ressources are limited.

But I really appreciate your enthusiasm (and I think, others do as  
well). We surely didn't want to alieniate you. Sit back, relax and  
think about more realistic goals to achieve (trying to turn everybody  
here into developing applications isn't one), we then surely can find  
effective ways to cooperate.

> Sorry My-Bad

No need for such drama!


regards,

        Lars

> -j
>
> On 2010-02-16 22:24:24 +0100 Markus Hitter <mah@jump-ing.de> wrote:
>
> > Am 16.02.2010 um 16:51 schrieb J. Jordan:
> > > I was just trying to drum up some interest in GNUstep
> > Wrong address, Sir. We're all GNUstep fans here already.
> > Markus
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter
> > http://www.jump-ing.de/
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