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Re: GNUstep's lack of progress and Apple's holding back Swift language


From: Riccardo Mottola
Subject: Re: GNUstep's lack of progress and Apple's holding back Swift language
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 18:38:33 +0200
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Hi,

Maxthon Chan wrote:
Dear fellows:

Is it possible that Apple is holding Swift from being released to public, 
despite its popularity and demand, have a bit of reason in GNUstep’s lack of 
progress? Our libraries is still at the level of Lion maybe Snow Leopard, and 
obviously that won’t be able to support running Swift code.


I would not say Swifs delay has anything to do with GNUstep. It is just because it sucks, useless and done just for "we have a new proprietary language that looks cool and lures young developers and locks them in".

GNUstep's lack of progress is on one side just perceived, because there is slow progress. On the other side, the current state of AppKit is already very powerful: you just need to use it! What sense has to continue to add up new kits and methods, when what you need is having apps using them?

Also, as stated many times: certain things that need to be fixed or completed in our AppKit are not easy tasks, e.g. Printing, TextTables or SmallWebKit.

For most developers it is a "fix or implement what I need" priority, not just a badge "we are 10.x or 10.y" compatible. And of course if few people write, enhance or port their apps, there is little need.

roll up your sleeves..... and start Emacs/Vi/ProjectCenter/XCode....

Riccardo



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