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Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze


From: Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)
Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 15:44:53 +0100

Waiting more time to start a beta period is never a good idea. The more we wait, the more difficult is to have a stable version. It is not because a release is availabel that users HAVE TO upgrade. 
Saying to wait because a new amazing feature will come is also not a good reason to delay. There is always amazing and important feature in the pipe.

The fact is user rely on roadmap. And roadmap say we will launch the beta if everything looks stable enough to start a beta. And it is.

Currently i am not aware of critical troubles, nor in 3.8.2, nor in 3.9 branch, so there is no reason to not follow the good practice "release early, release often".
If i missed such problems, it will be interesting to have them reported on github bug tracker (note the old tracker on doliforge has been adandonned).

Then the argument "we must start beta later because we need to do more test", is just a bad argument. The goal of the beta is to "start test". So the more we wait to start the beta, the less we make test.

So let's test the version now the freeze so the fix/bug period has started and fix the more you can. 
The annouce of the freeze for future 3.9 just means: "We don't need features developers, new features will not be introduced, we need testers and bug fixers" and it seems everybody agrees with that, so we are going in same direction.

PS: Adding phpunit tests is not adding new feature, so you can submit such PR.



2015-12-07 21:32 GMT+01:00 Olivier Geffroy <address@hidden>:
Hi all, 

why launch the 3.9 ?
we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It will be better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and show that we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..)
my 2 cents

2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY <address@hidden>:
Laurent,

      Can you create 3.8_backport branch ?

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Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a écrit :

Hello Laurent

Please don’t freez the 3.9 till end of year,

we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real advance on Dolibarr than a better interface

and I don’t the advancement on native multidevis on

 

Charlie (defrance)

 

 

De : address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden] De la part de Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)
Envoyé : dimanche 6 décembre 2015 14:53
À : ML Dolibarr dev <address@hidden>
Objet : [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze

 

 

As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement of the freez of version 3.9

 

There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.

It's done.

 

Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.

 

I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to debug the current develop version ans send fixes. 

 

 

Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still working.

The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and may create regression for external modules.


 

 

 

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