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Re: [Dotgnu-sc] Status of dotgnu.org


From: Norbert Bollow
Subject: Re: [Dotgnu-sc] Status of dotgnu.org
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:29:46 +0200

> Meanwhile, do we want to import the dotgnu.org mailing lists into
> gnu.org?

Let's discuss what will be best.

I'd be happy to continue hosting the lists, but I think moving
them to a FSF machine would be a good idea since that would
allow GNU volunteers (who are not employees of my company) to
work on it, if/when that is desirable.  (I have a policy of not
giving shell access to a production server to anyone who is not
directly related to my company.)

On the other hand, I don't like the idea of moving to a vanilla
Mailman version, especially with the archives.  Since the
beginning of DotGNU we've had searchable archives, and also
I've made the small modification to the archives that gives us
the capability to add logos and a legal disclaimer to the
archives.  I don't like the idea of losing these features.  

Also, as soon as the website redesign (which has been making
good progress now with the fine work of Rich) is complete I'd
like to modify the archiver to generate matching archives.
(Perhaps I should also mention that my business plans involve
hiring a maintainer for Pipermail, the archiver component of
GNU Mailman, which currently is sadly unmaintained.  The
original author of Pipermail has declared the package
"obsolete" and deprecated it in favor of a different archiver
which is also Free Software but written in Perl, which makes
it unsuitable for close intergration with Mailman which is
written in Python.)

So if/when we move the DotGNU lists to a FSF server, I'd like to
be able to admin the archiver system there - would this be possible?

Now IF we move the DotGNU lists to a FSF server, and IF also
dotgnu.org gets transferred to the FSF soon (as we all hope)
then we'd be in the nice situation of being able to choose
between two good options.  I'd be in favor of moving forward
with turning both of those two IFs into realities (without
losing features), and change the lists to use gnu.org or
dotgnu.org according to whatever of the IFs gets done first.
(I'd like to move away from .info as soon as possible while
minimizing the number of changes and while not losing those
nice features).

> If someone sends us the mailman directories, we can probably do
> this.

I can easily provide a .tgz with them, and/or install things,
I'm experienced with those things :-)

Greetings, Norbert.

-- 
Founder & Steering Committee member of http://www.gnu.org/projects/dotgnu/
Norbert Bollow, Weidlistr.18, CH-8624 Gruet     (near Zurich, Switzerland)
Tel +41 1 972 20 59          Fax +41 1 972 20 69         http://norbert.ch
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