Re: [PATCH] Re: Save Options vs. default-input-method

[Per Abrahamsen]

Richard Stallman <address@hidden> writes:

>     > Is there some reason we want this always to be saved?  
>
>     In general: If the standard value changes a lot, we might want to save
>     the option even if identical to the current standard value, as it
>     might not be identical to future standard values.
>
> Does that apply here?  Do these standard values change a lot?  I don't
> see that they do.  As far as I know, these defaults have never changed
> since these features were first implemented.

True for menu-bar-mode, but tool-bar-mode is nil if you start with "-nw".

>     > What precisely would go wrong if you make t the standard value?
>
>     Even when there isn't any tool bar?  That might work, a user might
>     want to tell Emacs never to turn on the tool bar, but is not likely to
>     tell Emacs to always turn on the tool bar, even when Emacs would not
>     do it by default.
>
> As far as I know, Emacs always turns on the tool bar by default.
> Or at least it tries to.  On some terminals this does not succeed
> because they cannot support the feature, but Emacs always tries
> to have a tool bar.
>
> Am I mistaken?

I don't think Emacs even enter the part of the code that turn on
tool-bar-mode when you start it with -nw, but it doesn't matter.  If
setting standard-value unconditionally to t give the most useful
behavior, we should do that.

Will you give me an OK to change standard-value for menu-bar-mode and
tool-bar-mode to t?