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Re: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap server
From: |
Ted Zlatanov |
Subject: |
Re: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32 |
Date: |
Sun, 19 May 2013 19:05:22 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) |
On Sun, 19 May 2013 12:45:12 +0100 João Távora <address@hidden> wrote:
JT> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Ted Zlatanov <address@hidden> wrote:
>> Wouldn't you rather get GnuTLS to work by default? Otherwise we serve
>> the use case "I have no secure transport, so let me use a hack by
>> default."
JT> I don't understand. What is the hack here? External binary for TLS?
Using an external binary to transport SSL or TLS is a hack IMO.
>> My proposal would be to push out the next Emacs bundled with the latest
>> GnuTLS DLLs, only support GnuTLS, provide users with instructions on
>> updating them, and treat GnuTLS vulnerabilities as Emacs
>> vulnerabilities. This is not ideal but IMO better than the current
>> situation.
JT> ... but then you have all these headaches.
It's a headache I'm willing to endure for the sake of Emacs users.
The alternative, which João is enduring now, is to punt the problem.
This is a question for the Emacs maintainers: do you agree with me on
the above plan? It would mean changing the way Mac OS X and W32 Emacs
builds are distributed, to include the GnuTLS libraries with the build,
and we'd have to implement a way (perhaps through the ELPA) to
distribute updates to these libraries.
JT> The fix I proposed aims for the status quo, that is: make external
JT> TLS binary support slightly more robust. My test case is even smaller:
JT> * W32
JT> * cygwin carrying the responsibility burden
JT> * vanilla emacs working with tls/imap/gnus.
Did you propose a patch? I would commit a patch but can't write it
despite your great description of the problem.
Ted
- Re: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32, Ted Zlatanov, 2013/05/18
- Re: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32, João Távora, 2013/05/19
- Re: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32,
Ted Zlatanov <=
- Re: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32, Juanma Barranquero, 2013/05/19
- Re: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32, Ted Zlatanov, 2013/05/20
- Re: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32, Juanma Barranquero, 2013/05/20
- Re: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32, Ted Zlatanov, 2013/05/24
- Re: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/05/24
- Re: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32, Ted Zlatanov, 2013/05/24
- Re: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/05/25
- Re: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32, Ted Zlatanov, 2013/05/25
- Re: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/05/25
- Re: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32, Ted Zlatanov, 2013/05/26