Re: font-lock-syntactic-keywords obsolet?

[Dmitry Gutov]

On 06/22/2016 12:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

> What I object to is you trying
> to dictate to the Emacs community that they are only to be allowed to
> handle syntax-table text properties in your favoured manner.

I'm not doing that. Again: please go on with doing whatever you wish in 
CC Mode.

> There is, at the very least an implication there, that you consider
> "syntax-ppss users" in some way privileged, in that other Emacs
> developers must constrain their development strategies to fit in with
> the desires and defficiencies of these "syntax-ppss users".

Only when you try to change how Emacs primitives work. Then yes, you 
damn better consider the existing facilities and their users. I'm again 
referring to comment-cache here and your proposed implementation.

> I say that it is up to the "syntax-ppss users" to keep their software
> compatible with Emacs, not the other way around.

By the same reasoning, you could push for renaming `car' into `cr' for 
efficiency reasons, without an alias, and demand that all other users 
adapt to keep their code compatible. That's not how Emacs works, and you 
know it.

> They have no right to
> impose constraints on other developers, certainly not on how they will
> manipulate syntax-table text properties.

That sounds like a different discussion.

> I'm not sure how you imagine that implementing
> something in CC Mode somehow "ignores the needs of the rest of the
> modes".

It does not while it stays in CC Mode. Or, if extracted from it, remains 
fully optional.

> > That's not true. You've critiqued it a lot (does that not count as
> > persuading to abandon?), ....
>
> No, it doesn't.  It's technical discussion leading to greater
> understanding on both sides.

I really hope it does.