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Re: RFC: locale-sensitive Emacs functions


From: Ted Zlatanov
Subject: Re: RFC: locale-sensitive Emacs functions
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 08:45:13 -0400
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux)

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:59:25 -0400 Gdobbins <address@hidden> wrote: 

>> I remember concluding that I was glad I didn't have to write code to support 
>> the '
>> flag, as it would require messing with the LC_NUMERIC locale setting 
>> (currently
>> hardwired to "C" for other good reasons) and would make for some work redoing
>> carefully-calculated output buffer sizes internal to 'format', not to mention
>> the character set conversion that would be required.

G> The way I've proposed should obviate those problems. Since the variables
G> governing the behavior are set by the user, LC_NUMERIC need not be 
consulted. If
G> it is deemed necessary a function like set-locale-dependent-vars could be
G> created to set these (and potentially other) variables, and the user could 
put
G> it in their init if they so choose.

Right, so you're *ignoring* the locale, and making "%'d" an
Emacs-specific thing because it doesn't follow the C behavior. I agree
that's a clean approach.

>> For what it's worth, the Common Lisp approach cannot handle the Indian 
>> numbering
>> system, which has a comma every two digits except that the last grouping
>> contains three digits (e.g., "12,34,56,789").

G> The literal CL approach can't handle it, but it can be adapted to do so. The
G> attached patch makes it so the format-digit-grouping variable can be a list. 
The
G> first element of the list controls the grouping size of the least significant
G> figures etc. until the last element controls all remaining groups. Using your
G> example:

G> (let ((format-digit-grouping '(3 2)))
G> (format "%'d" 123456789)) => "12,34,56,789"

I like the patch and the proposed approach, and if there are no
objections, and with some tests, I think it would be good to go.

Ted




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