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Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?
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Bob Rogers |
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Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib? |
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Fri, 3 Nov 2023 12:51:38 -0700 |
From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2023 03:21:30 +0100
Bob Rogers wrote:
> I think we are not really talking about arbitrary decisions here,
> but about language style decisions . . .
So let's hear it then, what is it that sets Emacs 18 Elisp
apart from Emacs 30 Elisp . . .
Briefly, it's now a much larger language . . .
and how is the Emacs 30 Elisp less coherent than the Emacs 18 Elisp?
--
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal
. . . and the additions have come from diverse sources. It started as a
Maclisp subset with extensions to support editing. The issue is that
the programming features have grown, and not only from Common Lisp,
moving it away from its Maclisp roots. (This, I believe, is the gist of
Richard's complaint.) And the language editing features have (not
surprisingly) grown with Emacs' growth as an editor, as they have had to
do, which has unavoidably added to the learning curve you have to climb
before you can contribute to Emacs. It has also made the language more
about editing and less about programming, which IMHO makes the style
question less acute.
-- Bob
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Richard Stallman, 2023/11/01
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Jim Porter, 2023/11/01
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Philip Kaludercic, 2023/11/02
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/11/02
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Philip Kaludercic, 2023/11/02
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Bob Rogers, 2023/11/02
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Emanuel Berg, 2023/11/03
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?,
Bob Rogers <=
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Emanuel Berg, 2023/11/03
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Bob Rogers, 2023/11/03
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Emanuel Berg, 2023/11/04
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Stephen Berman, 2023/11/04
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Emanuel Berg, 2023/11/05
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Richard Stallman, 2023/11/07
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Emanuel Berg, 2023/11/08
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Björn Bidar, 2023/11/08
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Alan Mackenzie, 2023/11/08
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Emanuel Berg, 2023/11/08