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RE: Incorrect terminology in Customize doc
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Drew Adams |
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RE: Incorrect terminology in Customize doc |
Date: |
Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:13:31 -0800 |
My understanding is that the original definition of "user
option" was: an
option that an end-user (not familiar with Elisp) can change.
I have no pb with that.
This happened to be limited to user-variable-p at the time for lack of
anything else but now also includes faces.
OK, but I don't think that is stated anywhere, and I think that "user
option" is used in various places explicitly with the more restricted
meaning.
I don't think it's particularly confusing.
The only confusion comes from doc or doc strings that might refer to the
more restricted meaning (`user-variable-p') of "user option". If those are
eliminated/corrected, then there is no pb. I don't know if this has already
been corrected.
> That will also require, BTW, a term for `user-variable-p'
Why? It's not like we often need to talk about those
particular variables
which are user-variable-p but are not defcustom'd, is it?
No, I agree. We just need to say clearly that not all `user-variable-p'
variables are "handled by Customize", or something to that effect, in places
where the distinction might be important. Otherwise, people will be
surprised when they try to `customize-variable' and they are told that they
cannot, even though the variable is `user-variable-p'.
And IIRC the last discussion (where we decided that M-x
set-variable should
be extended with the functionality of M-x
customize-set-variable), we'd like
ultimately to get rid of the distinction between user-variable-p and
custom-izable variables.
I missed that discussion & decision, but I support the idea. Is that already
planned for post 21.4?
- Drew
- Incorrect terminology in Customize doc, Drew Adams, 2005/01/22
- Re: Incorrect terminology in Customize doc, Stefan Monnier, 2005/01/22
- Re: Incorrect terminology in Customize doc, Richard Stallman, 2005/01/23
- Re: Incorrect terminology in Customize doc, Richard Stallman, 2005/01/24
- RE: Incorrect terminology in Customize doc, Drew Adams, 2005/01/24
- Re: Incorrect terminology in Customize doc, Richard Stallman, 2005/01/25
- Re: Incorrect terminology in Customize doc, Kim F. Storm, 2005/01/26
- Re: Incorrect terminology in Customize doc, Richard Stallman, 2005/01/26
- RE: Incorrect terminology in Customize doc, Drew Adams, 2005/01/27
- Re: Incorrect terminology in Customize doc, Stefan Monnier, 2005/01/27
- Re: Incorrect terminology in Customize doc, Reiner Steib, 2005/01/27