Re: [gnomoradio-devel] An ed2k key/hash database?

[Daniel O'Connor]

Your talking about bitzi.com

Bitzi.com is a project where files on p2p networks are annotated and
commented on, plus rated. The data is then shared back as RDF/XML
under a creative commons, sharealike+attribution licence.

Take a look at bitcollider....

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:51:05 -0300, Alexandre Van de Sande
<address@hidden> wrote:
> anyway, i think using their program to music seems a little like
> glueing a flashlight to a head cap with silver tape. It's easier but
> we want to develop a real hemlet with a light on, not make a kludge
> from ready pieces.
> 
> Again, there is a whole field of study called collaborative filtering.
> It wasn't gnomoradio nor irate who invented it. I am currently very
> interested in studying it to develop a open all players colaborative
> filter for music.
> 
> I see that has been done already, can anyone give me a clue about how
> irate or gnomoradios algorithm currently work?
> 
> Alexandre
> 
> p.s. don't try to understand their logic. copyrighters have thei own
> reason. i disagree mostly, but they just think it's the easiest way to
> get more money.
> 
> On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:34:25 +0200, daniele <address@hidden> wrote:
> > Uff... u r right! They "accept" very happily new code... but do not
> > release their!
> > Bad. Worst.
> > And stupid: they base their earnings upon how many people join the
> > community. More people join, more people may choose to upgrade, more
> > webmasters will pay (and pay more) to sponsor their web site... don't
> > understand! If anyone could do its own non-harmful script or
> > implementation of SU in this or that utility, the traffic and the number
> > of stumblers would only increase in number and quality!
> > Going to ask them something about their reasons.
> > daniele
> >
> > Alexandre Van de Sande ha scritto:
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > >very interesting daniele.
> > >
> > >It is a interesting idea, but too simple. what bothers me is something
> > >on stumble upon homepage:
> > >
> > >"Founded April 2002, StumbleUpon has developed a patent-pending
> > >community-based websurfing system"
> > >
> > >Stumble upon is patented, wicth means they are not wanting to anyone
> > >to freely use their code. Best would be to develop a independent open
> > >coded, copyleft program specifically for our needs, that could be
> > >adopted in many softwares, like
> > >
> > >1-colaborative filtering for music (like gradio and irate)
> > >2-colaborative filtering for wepages (like stumble upon)
> > >3- colaborative filtering for anything somebody thinks about it (news,
> > >videos, friends, messages, blogs, anything)
> > >
> > >But thanks for showing me stumble upon, i didn't know it.
> > >
> > >Alexandre
> > >
> > >Don't care for poor language grammars, care for communication
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
>  daniele <address@hidden> wrote
> 
> Thinking about how could it be built a common database of CC art for all
> possible applications, I had that idea.
> The database contains only ed2k (for example) links to the files, and
> descriptions about them, providing facilities to search and know more
> about licensing, artists, donations, comments made from others etc.
> A web server generates a page for each entry in the database, displaying
> all info, containing all necessary links etc. From the hash and the ed2k
> code of a file, it is possible for the user (or a client he uses) to
> build the correct address for the web page on the server corresponding
> to the shared file.
> And the rating mechanism?
> Nothing simpler! The rating is provided by an external tool, like
> stumble upon. Infact, each song is represented by a web page and any web
> page can be rated in the stumble upon community, and it can be opened a
> discussion on the page. Than, "stumbling" from the browser in the
> preferred category, will show the description page of the songs with the
> ed2k links. Integrating the stumble engine into an external app (like
> gnomoradio) will generate a radio playlists /throw that mechanism)
> according to the selected genres.
> 
> Comments/idea?
> daniele
> ps: sorry for my bad english!!!
> 
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