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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???
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Charles Duffy |
Subject: |
Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery??? |
Date: |
Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:36:56 -0600 |
On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 03:45, Peter Conrad wrote:
> > Your "right to contract" is not some a priori element of nature --
> > some personal liberty granted by a creative force -- which can be
> > modified only by constructing restrictions.
> > All but one of the GPL software freedoms (to run, copy, modify, and
> > distribute -- but not to obtain source), in contrast, _are_ a priori
> > elements of nature.
>
> Unless the term "element of nature" has some specific meaning in US law
> that I fail to understand, your claims seem totally at will and are
> completely unfounded. What makes running software more natural than
> a mutual agreement between two parties?
As I understand Tom's argument, the line of reasoning goes roughly as
follows:
Running a piece of software which one already posesses is something
which can be done without 3rd-party intervention or permission (the
latter absent a state-imposed monopoly such as that provided by
copyright).
Engaging in a contract _with enforcement by the state_, on the other
hand, requires governmental cooperation; hence, it falls into a
different category. A "contract" without such enforcement, by Tom's
definition, is a "gentleman's agreement" as opposed to a contract
proper.
Now, hopefully Tom in correcting how I misunderstand his position will
help to make some portions of it more clear. :)
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, (continued)
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Tom Lord, 2003/11/23
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Peter Conrad, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Momchil Velikov, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Peter Conrad, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Charles Duffy, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Peter Conrad, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Samium Gromoff, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Samium Gromoff, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Peter Conrad, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Charles Duffy, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???,
Charles Duffy <=
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Charles Duffy, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Peter Conrad, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Charles Duffy, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Tupshin Harper, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Peter Conrad, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Samium Gromoff, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Samium Gromoff, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Samium Gromoff, 2003/11/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: Slavery???, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/11/24