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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] New feature at the mirror + request for help
From: |
Tom Lord |
Subject: |
Re: [Gnu-arch-users] New feature at the mirror + request for help |
Date: |
Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:54:55 -0800 (PST) |
> From: "Parker, Ron" <address@hidden>
> In some respects the supermirror is kind of like Savannah, SourceForge or
> archive.org. That said, does anyone on-list have a clue how SourceForge
> actually pays for its processing, storage and bandwidth
> expenses?
> I can't imagine that those banner ads that I always ignore cover
> it. [SourceForge, I assume you mean.]
See:
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/040316/lnux10-q.html
At a _quick_ glance, it appears that SF is not reported separately
from other OSDN stuff.
That makes good sense. Suppose we guess that ads on /. bring in the
most ad money: even so, events on other properties like NewsForge and
SourceForge generate /. stories, helping to raise the value of /. ads
and generating more impressions when people click back and forth.
VA ain't exactly rolling in dough but, on the other hand, the on-line
part of their business appears to be a profitable aggregate and,
indeed, they're starting to report it separately from software sales.
In other words: it's not a bad guess that SF is barely or not quite
self-sustaining, but regarded as part of the overall OSDN package,
it's just fine.
To answer your question about SF, they pay for its processing,
storage, bandwidth, and R&D expenses _maybe_ through just the ads but
more likely by being part of the larger OSDN.
> Savannah, I assume, is funded out of FSF donations and
> other monies.
Savannah, as far as I know, is indeed sustained by contributions, a
mild majority of which (67%) come from individuals.
> Perhaps archive.org is fully funded through their
> donations as well, I don't know.
www.archive.org: Go to their home page and look in the lower left
hand corner for a box labled "Institutional Support". Also take note
that their site is _not_ heavilly laden with fundraising solicitations.
Those guys are playing in a very different space from Savannah and
SourceForge: they're preserving cultural artifacts in a much, much
broader scope. I presume from the mission and language on the
homepage that there is a heavy duty librarian component to their
management -- they're addressing a very deep issue that every
non-trivial library in the world is trying to figure out: how to cope
with on-line content.
Their Library of Congress affiliation and similar given them a lot of
credibility. I suspect that they get by mostly on some pretty
respectable grants. Even union-buster Carnegie saw fit to build
libraries (not necessarily buy books for them, but build libraries :-)
--- it seems like they've carved a niche where professional
philanthropy is comfortable operating and their biggest challenge is
to make sure they do a really good job to sustain and amplify their
reputation.
-t
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] New feature at the mirror + request for help, (continued)
Re: [Gnu-arch-users] New feature at the mirror + request for help, Dustin Sallings, 2004/03/23
Re: [Gnu-arch-users] New feature at the mirror + request for help, Mikhael Goikhman, 2004/03/23
RE: [Gnu-arch-users] New feature at the mirror + request for help, Parker, Ron, 2004/03/23
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] New feature at the mirror + request for help,
Tom Lord <=
RE: [Gnu-arch-users] New feature at the mirror + request for help, Parker, Ron, 2004/03/27
Re: [Gnu-arch-users] New feature at the mirror + request for help, Aaron Bentley, 2004/03/27
RE: [Gnu-arch-users] New feature at the mirror + request for help, Parker, Ron, 2004/03/29