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Re: [open-cobol-list] MiniListing already (full) implemented ? TODO or
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Thomas Biehler |
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Re: [open-cobol-list] MiniListing already (full) implemented ? TODO or NEWS (STATUS?) |
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Fri Mar 5 06:47:03 2004 |
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On Friday 05 March 2004 12:56, Keisuke Nishida wrote:
> At Fri, 5 Mar 2004 10:25:37 +0100,
>
> address@hidden wrote:
> > I have seen the changes for "MiniListing" ( cobc -t ) in CVS.
> > You have not announced it yet!? --> which status has it ?
>
> I preliminarily implemented it as a trial. It's not working
> as you expect, but might be better than nothing.
>
Yes!
That is what i have assumed! ;-)
(But, this feature request does not hurry!)
I have asked my question as a example to demonstrate
how hard it currently is, to gain and hold an overview
over the project status. And i am not new to this project!
But with the maintaned TODO / NEWS files, good cvs commit messages
and the improved testsuite (perhaps with realizing only_requested_feature.at
and in_working_feature.at) it improves more and more!
(Perhaps a tool for evaluate cvs-log is here also TODO !?)
I think a prerequisite to share the work! (efficient!)
If the "basic structure" of the project would be not good enough,
some additional mail traffic will be necessary!
(needs time -> and is (too) slow ; remember the different timezones!)
IMHO too much mail traffic!
But the current progress of the "basic structure" is great!
In my view the right way!
Really, I appreciate it!
> > If i should write the STATUS file / website,
> > there are many open questions, i haved asked before,
> > without answers !?
> > (form, content, website in cvs, toolchain ...)
>
> I think anything is OK. If you can do it, just do it as you
> like. I appreciate it if you could rewrite our website from
> scratch and maintain it. I just don't have enough time to do
> everything by myself.
>
> Keisuke
>
Well, i will think about it. No promise yet!
I need time to refresh my web knowledge
I have to reorganize my personal TODO. ;-)
Some of my tasks have higher priority!
OPEN-COBOL:
===========
- generate feature request for "EXIT PERFORM" (MF / ISO 2002)
- generate feature request for better error messages
(format, alternative : mulit-row-messages error-numbers ...)
- known cygwin problems: some observations from my tests / try's
(If nobody requests / uses cygwin --> priority decreases strong )
- help with writing autotests ...
- using / integrating splint !?
- using / integrating doxygen ?!
- generate feature request for FUNCTION SQRT / UPPER
- generate (only syntax! --> evaluate as a comment) feature request
"LOCK MODE IS MANUAL / AUTOMATIC .... WITH "
- generate feature request for "&" - Concatenation - Operator
(ISO 2002 / MF-Extensions)
- generate feature request for "$SET $IF ..." MF-Extensions ...
- discussion: truncation of identifiers longer than 30 chars to 30 chars !?
- test "release candiate" on aix 4.3 / aix 5.1 platform
IMO some of the topics are more important. Perhaps you disagree !?
Let me know.
I have seen you haved work VERY hard!
(I have always seen the timestamps of your "puplic" actions! ;-) )
Many, many thanks from me!
But i agree with you, you can NOT do it alone!
Really nobody is able to do this!
That is normal in active/growing projects! :-(
You have asked for helping make the documentation and
now you ask me for helping make the STATUS / website.
That is the right way!
You are the project admin and can / shall !!! request for help!
Perhaps you should give prioritys!
(What do you want or plan to do ?)
In a long view the project has to grow!
If not, then IMO, it will not be alive in future days! :-((
But that is also normal!
I try to support you as good i can.
But if would give all my time to the project
then we are only two persons!
(Perhaps i have missed someone ? Sorry!)
That could help only a short time!
I hope you see the problem!
The only solution that i see is:
- make it good and easy for users (=support!),
- show what the project can (already) do, (good marketing!)
- make stable, powerfull releases! (--> low priority thinks later!)
(Everbody loves a good release strategy!)
- show that the project is active !
(--> Important step to reach new users / contributors /developers
They must trust to the project before they investe time!)
That are all important tasks for a project admin!
(need you help here ? please think about it)
(Not only in this project!)
If that will be done, the project will be (further) successfully!
Thomas
P.S. my mail-sending problem to this list is solved ! :-)
I hope for others, that are good news! :-))