Re: website: say what Guix is at the very top

[Pjotr Prins]

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 01:11:23PM -0500, address@hidden wrote:
> On 01/31/2018 at 18:27 Pjotr Prins writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:58:09AM -0500, address@hidden wrote:
> >> To be explicit, I added a couple target groups and indicated the product
> >> we would pitch with an x ...
> >> 
> >> | Target Group                | Guix | GuixSD | Motivation                 
> >>           |
> >> |-----------------------------+------+--------+--------------------------------------|
> >> | hacker                      | x    | x      | scheme, functional, free   
> >>           
> >> | sysadmin & devop            | x    | ?      | make 
> >> user/developer/researcher happy 
> >
> > I doubt they will use GuixSD unless they have a very specific purpose
> > in mind, e.g., say for mailserver deployment. Cloud/VMs. It could
> > work, but I don't think it is a large group we can pitch to.
> 
> What about a forward-thinking sysadmin commissioning new systems for a
> startup? If they know they want Guix is there a reason they wouldn't
> install GuixSD?

Could be.

> >
> >> | user/developer/researcher   | x    |        | productivity tool
> >
> > This is my favorite because they are potential packagers.
> >
> >> | generic organizational user | ?    |        | ?                          
> >>           |
> >
> > Yes, another target group, i.e., the pointy haired boss. Some of these
> > understand the concept of reducing cost.
> 
> Here I am thinking of "unsophisticated" users, e.g., someone told to run
> SAS on a server that is probably not going to actually ever call guix.

Yes. But the pointy haired boss may read about saving time and money
and call for trying out Guix.

> >
> >> | desktop distro user         |      | ?      | ?                          
> >>           |
> >
> > Libre desktop user. Yes.
> >
> >> |-----------------------------+------+--------+--------------------------------------|
> >
> > We also have embedded systems and phones as a potential audience. I
> > think OpenWRT/LEDE, for example, could buy into Guix. And then there
> > is Android. If we are able to strip down packages to a minimum that
> > becomes very interesting to them.
> 
> OK, so like this ?
> 
> >> | Target Group                | Guix | GuixSD | 
> >> | embedded sys/phone          |      | x      |

It will be a migration path. I was thinking Guix packages. But when we
have lean packages GuixSD becomes an option, indeed.

> >
> > Then we have HPC as a specialization with optimized targets and
> > relocatable packages.
> 
> OK, so like this?
> 
> >> | Target Group                | Guix | GuixSD | 
> >> | HPC sysadmin                | x    | x      | optimized targets and 
> >> relocatable packages

Not GuixSD. HPC will run CentOS or similar.

> > And light containers for webservice/cloud deployments...
> 
> Is this more detail on HPC or something else entirely?

I think it is something else. More business oriented. Think Amazon.

HPC is not ready to accept containers on a large scale.

Pj.