[Heartlogic-dev] Re: cognitive therapy & meditation

[Joshua N Pritikin]

On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 11:07:49AM -0600, William L. Jarrold wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 12:14:22PM -0600, William L. Jarrold wrote:
> > > On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 04:07:05PM -0600, William L. Jarrold wrote:
> > > > > Hmmm.  Interesting.  I sometimes don't like that
> > > > > stuff....Feels like mind games on how to trick
> > > > > yourself into not feeling so bad...BUt yeah, it
> > > > > helps some.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, quite true.  I don't understand how it can
> > > > work without daily meditation.
> > >
> > > Interesting.  I thought meditation was just sitting there
> > > focusing on breathing trying to think of nothing and clear
> > > your mind....Is this clearing of mind what makes it easier
> > > to make effective use of cognitive therapy or is there
> > > something else about (sahayoga?) meditation that I don't
> > > know about.
> >
> > If your glass is full then how can you fill it with nector?
> >
> > In other words, it is helpful (or necessary?) to reduce or
> > stop thinking in order to change how your cognitive
> > processes work.  Without meditation, I doubt you will be able
> > to effectively modify your automatic thoughts.
> 
> Cool.  Right.

I wonder if anyone has done an empirical study comparing
the effectiveness of cognitive therapy combined with
meditation and cognitive therapy alone.

It seems like an obvious experiment to try.

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A new cognitive theory of emotion, http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/aleader