[Heartlogic-dev] Re: cognitive therapy & meditation

[William L. Jarrold]

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 11:07:49AM -0600, William L. Jarrold wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 12:14:22PM -0600, William L. Jarrold wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 04:07:05PM -0600, William L. Jarrold wrote:

5 >'s deep....Yee haa!!!  (-:

> > > > > > Hmmm.  Interesting.  I sometimes don't like that
> > > > > > stuff....Feels like mind games on how to trick
> > > > > > yourself into not feeling so bad...BUt yeah, it
> > > > > > helps some.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, quite true.  I don't understand how it can
> > > > > work without daily meditation.
> > > >
> > > > Interesting.  I thought meditation was just sitting there
> > > > focusing on breathing trying to think of nothing and clear
> > > > your mind....Is this clearing of mind what makes it easier
> > > > to make effective use of cognitive therapy or is there
> > > > something else about (sahayoga?) meditation that I don't
> > > > know about.
> > >
> > > If your glass is full then how can you fill it with nector?
> > >
> > > In other words, it is helpful (or necessary?) to reduce or
> > > stop thinking in order to change how your cognitive
> > > processes work.  Without meditation, I doubt you will be able
> > > to effectively modify your automatic thoughts.
> >
> > Cool.  Right.
>
> I wonder if anyone has done an empirical study comparing
> the effectiveness of cognitive therapy combined with
> meditation and cognitive therapy alone.
>
> It seems like an obvious experiment to try.

Yep.  You might email a friend of mine who is way into meditation
and is also in the counseling program.  Michael Shattah ---
address@hidden -- maybe he knows of such a thing.  Or
do a google search or even better a search on psych lit.

You might also do a search on the "Relaxation Response."  This might
have been all the rage 'round that time that Pritikin diet was
raging!  (-:

Bill

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