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Re: basic question: going back to dired
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Juanma Barranquero |
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Re: basic question: going back to dired |
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Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:49:35 +0200 |
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 18:13, Evans Winner <thorne@timbral.net> wrote:
> The issue is not history or short-term convenience for new
> users but precision. Emacs does not use workspaces or
> panes, but buffers.
Looking up "buffer", the closest meaning I find is:
"(computer science) a part of RAM used for temporary storage of data
that is waiting to be sent to a device; used to compensate for
differences in the rate of flow of data between components of a
computer system"
which is not exactly the meaning used in Emacs, because, as has been
pointed out, many "buffers" are used to store data that will never be
sent to a device.
Whether "workspace" is a better term or not is largely irrelevant; on
one hand, because the discussion is about whether better terms could
be used, not a defense of specific ones; and, on the other hand,
because, after emacs -Q,
(let ((x 0))
(mapatoms (lambda (sym)
(when (string-match-p "buffer" (symbol-name sym))
(setq x (1+ x)))))
x)
=> 660
so it will never be changed.
> A person who has been told that he is working with
> ``windows'' (meaning buffers in Emacs) is thus conceptually
> crippled if he wants to do something that could be done with
> buffers other than using them as windows.
I've never seen "window" suggested as a substitute of "buffer", but of
(Emacs) "frame", because what Emacs calls a frame is usually called a
window in most environments.
> A metaphor, like
> ``workspace'' only tells you as much about a thing as the
> inventor of the metaphor wanted you to know, but makes it
> impossible to extend your understanding past that.
"Buffer" is also a metaphor.
> If the term keybinding ought to be changed to anything it
> should be rather something like input-binding (since
> function execution can be triggered by any form of input,
> not just keyboard presses) than ``shortcut'' or whatever
> such woozy nonsense.
Something like it. But less obscure. And, for the record, I don't like
shortcut at all.
Juanma
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