----- Original Message -----
> From: Francesco Potortì <address@hidden>
> To: Octave users list <address@hidden>
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> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:13 PM
> Subject: post-moderating this list
>
> I'll try to make this a more structured proposal.
>
> In the last years, traffic on this least has increased, which is a good
> sign. However, discussions who used to be focused on Octave with very
> rare off-topic threads are now often becoming tit-for-tats, annoying to
> most of us and time-consuming for the developers.
>
> I propose to introduce post-moderation.
>
> For example, this can be implemented by having three post-moderators.
> If two of three agree and the third one does not veto, a poster who goes
> off-track or who indulges in Octave or free software bashing will be
> gently and privately invited to stop after few offending posts. If the
> poster's behaviour does not change after the second warning, the
> moderators will propose a one-month ban of the poster to the list
> owners.
>
> I volunteer to be one of the three moderators, or even a moderator for
> some variation of the above proposal.
>
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Your proposal is _very_ consistent with authoritarian guru-controlled structures behavior. From the link I recently posted:
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-11-29/ayn-rand-was-not-libertarian :
"
In a development eerily reminiscent of the organized hatred directed
against the arch-heretic Emanuel Goldstein in Orwell’s 1984, Rand cultists were required to sign a loyalty oath to Rand; essential to the loyalty oath was a declaration that the signer would henceforthnever read any future works of the apostate and arch-heretic Branden [Rand's number 2]. After the split, any Rand cultist seen carrying a
book or writing by Branden was promptly excommunicated.
"
- the "excommunicated" is/means banned.
And from http://freedomofmind.com/Info/infoDet.php?id=250 :
"
People whose power is based on the surrender of others
develop a repertoire of techniques for deflecting and undermining
anything that questions or challenges their status, behavior,
or beliefs. They ridicule or try to confuse people who ask challenging
questions.” (p.66)
"
- yes, the status and _behavior_ (e.g. a burst of GPL propaganda instead of addressing the real problems) _is_ challenged, and you _react_ to this challenge.
I have a much more general and far going proposal.
I suggest to intensify work on GPL4, and the very first freedom granted by the license should be the obligation of GPL4 SW users to send to FSF and GNU a notary signed pledge of allegiance in support of FSF/GNU/GPL cause.
GPL4 should also grant unlimited discretionary irrevocable freedom to list owners to decide who violates the pledge of allegiance.
Ok, you win. GPL/Octave is a dictature. Happy baby?
Now, can we please ban Sergei and move on?
BTW, Sergei, please note that you have plenty of other places on the internet where you can expose your opinion about the GPL. In a real dictatorial system, you wouldn't have any. And as you seem to like quotes, please also remember the saying: "your freedom stops where mine starts". Your freedom doesn't give you the right to do anything or to say anything (though it gives you the right to think whatever you like). If you think so, you're confusing freedom and anarchy.
Michael.