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Re: Gmail IMAP and moving articles to trash [solved]


From: Marc Schwartz
Subject: Re: Gmail IMAP and moving articles to trash [solved]
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:21:15 -0600
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux)

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:36:30 +0100 "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" <jao@gnu.org> wrote: 
>
> jao> hi again... i just discovered the problem seems to be that i wasn't
> jao> subscribed to the trash group. subscribing to it seems to fix the issue.
> jao> but still, if you know of an alternative fix that does not involved
> jao> subscribe to trash, i'd be happy to hear of it! :)
>
> Sorry, I don't know of a way.
>
> IMAP has a very specific way of dealing with article expiration and
> deletion, so it's unfortunate that Google doesn't use it.
>
> Ted

One of the things that you need to be aware of with Google and IMAP is
that all of the actual "physical" e-mails are stored in the "All Mail"
folder.

Everything else is a 'tag', or essentially a virtual folder. Even the
Trash folder is a tag.

You may notice that when moving mail to Trash, it is still in All Mail,
though this may depend upon your specific config. You might want to
watch how the e-mails behave on the GMail web site as you act upon mails
in GNUS. Gmail recommends 'marking' e-mails as deleted, but not actually
deleting them from the server.

I use GNUS here for usenet, but not for e-mail.

I have been using Google's IMAP for a few weeks now, as I recently got a
Samsung Blackjack II phone and wanted to be able to get e-mail on my
phone and laptop without the POP related loss of synchronization.

Although there are some issues with Gmail IMAP and HTML e-mails not
displaying in the phone's client, it generally functions well. I have
the phone synching with my corporate e-mail server (Zimbra running on
RHEL) via IMAP as well and that works nicely.

I had been using Evolution for e-mail (on RH/Fedora) for a number of
years and made the transition to Thunderbird recently, as Evo's IMAP is
hopelessly broken.

There is a page here:

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=12913

that has config information and you can get a feel for how various
clients are set up. Even the config in Thunderbird needs to be just
right to get it to act properly and map functionality to Gmail's
structure.

HTH,

Marc Schwartz




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