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Re: Challenge: Find potential use cases for non-trivial confinement
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Jonathan S. Shapiro |
Subject: |
Re: Challenge: Find potential use cases for non-trivial confinement |
Date: |
Mon, 01 May 2006 12:45:00 -0400 |
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 17:53 +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote:
> On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 05:00:26PM +0200, Pierre THIERRY wrote:
> > There *are* legitimate cases where you want a technical solution to
> > enforce some security policy.
>
> Yes. But some other cases, such as DRM to protect copyright, have
> unreasonable side-effects. We do not need to support such things IMO.
I just want to be very clear what you are saying. You are saying that
the DRM issue is *so* important that you cannot imagine some other use
case for encapsulation and/or identification that would lead you to
accept these features, correct?
If so, this is good. I think this is the heart of the Hurd-purpose issue
that must be decided.
> > > Summary: I think this is a case of "we don't want to support this".
> >
> > Why?
>
> Because the only reason it is needed is to support development of non-free
> software. Even more non-free than is currently possible, in fact.
This is the question that we need to determine -- whether it is, in
fact, useful only to support non-free software. Let us not assume the
answer just yet.
shap
- Re: Challenge: Find potential use cases for non-trivial confinement, (continued)
Re: Challenge: Find potential use cases for non-trivial confinement, Bas Wijnen, 2006/05/01
Re: Challenge: Find potential use cases for non-trivial confinement, Bas Wijnen, 2006/05/01
- Re: Challenge: Find potential use cases for non-trivial confinement, Pierre THIERRY, 2006/05/01
- Re: Challenge: Find potential use cases for non-trivial confinement, Marcus Brinkmann, 2006/05/01
- Re: Challenge: Find potential use cases for non-trivial confinement, Bas Wijnen, 2006/05/01
- Re: Challenge: Find potential use cases for non-trivial confinement,
Jonathan S. Shapiro <=
- Use Cases for Encapsulation and Identification, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2006/05/01
- Re: Use Cases for Encapsulation and Identification, Marcus Brinkmann, 2006/05/01
- Re: Use Cases for Encapsulation and Identification, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2006/05/01
- Re: Use Cases for Encapsulation and Identification, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2006/05/01
- Re: Use Cases for Encapsulation and Identification, Pierre THIERRY, 2006/05/01
- Re: Use Cases for Encapsulation and Identification, Pierre THIERRY, 2006/05/01
Re: Challenge: Find potential use cases for non-trivial confinement, Pierre THIERRY, 2006/05/01
Re: Challenge: Find potential use cases for non-trivial confinement, olafBuddenhagen, 2006/05/01
Re: Challenge: Find potential use cases for non-trivial confinement, Pierre THIERRY, 2006/05/01
Re: Challenge: Find potential use cases for non-trivial confinement, Bas Wijnen, 2006/05/01