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Re: Improving the Contributors Guide and LilyDev


From: James
Subject: Re: Improving the Contributors Guide and LilyDev
Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 12:10:12 +0100
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On 06/05/15 10:55, Urs Liska wrote:


Am 06.05.2015 um 07:34 schrieb Federico Bruni:
2015-05-06 7:19 GMT+02:00 Janek Warchoł <address@hidden>:

as I've already mentioned, I've already started working on a new
LilyDev.  I'm going to use tools that should make it easy to build
different versions of LilyDev (e.g. 32-bit and 64-bit, possibly also
based on different distros).


I though that you had some ideas on how to improve LilyDev, not that you
were working on building a new LilyDev..


In order to reduce work duplication, I suggest to wait with further
discussion until I have a working "prototype", which I'll present to
you for evaluation.  Hopefully this will happen within a week from
now.

I started updating LilyDev yesterday but spent just 20 minutes.
I invested some time last year to get started, but live-build is quite easy
to update and maintain.

I'll wait for your prototype, even if it looks like a work duplication
already.
Why not improving what's already available? Which advantages have the tools
you are using?
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As a side note: What would be the amount of work to provide a lily-dev metapackage that could be used by people who are already using a Linux distribution? As a Linux user I would prefer modifying my own system over using a precompiled LilyDev distro in a VM. I recall that setting up my systems on different machines (several different Debian based distros, including my "virtual private" web server) was actually quite simple. The only real issue I had (and still have) is through the fact that I have a manual TeXLive installation that doesn't really go well with LilyPond trying to access the packaged version. I think this is more or less a case of installing a number of packages through apt, cloning a number of repositories and adding a number of paths to .bashrc.

I will soon have the opportunity to test that on a computer that I'll install from scratch. That way I can at least write step-by-step directions to get a Debian computer to work with LilyPond development. But maybe it would also be good to have an even more streamlined approach? (OTOH, what I did was actually reading Janek's script and perform its steps manually, with more control. So maybe it would also be a good idea to build upon that script and make it perhaps somewhat more generic, with more configuration options?)

Urs

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Well what i did when I realised that there was a lot of back-and-forth for what people wanted in the 'new' LilyDev when I was doing it was to create a tracker

https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2538

That way anyone can see what the current state is and what needs to be done, but also add feature requests and perhaps even document the process on how it was created (prior to adding it to the CG).

Else a lot of information gets lost in the lists.

James



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