Re: Music glyph design choices

[tisimst]

On Sunday, August 9, 2015, Phil Holmes-2 [via Lilypond] <
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> > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Werner LEMBERG [via Lilypond] <
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> >> > 1. accidentals.flatflat: Why is the left flat more compressed than
> >> > the right?  Perhaps if the left were expanded slightly and the right
> >> > were compressed slightly, then the glyph width wouldn't have to
> >> > change, but would look more consistent.
> >>
> >> Hmm.  I don't think this glyph looks inconsistent...
> >>
> >
> > Here's what I meant. In the following image, we see two normal flats
> > superimposed (in green) on top of the doubleflat glyph (in black). The
> > stems are matched up to show what I'm referring to as being
> inconsistent:
> >
> > [image: Inline image 1]
> >
> > I hope this makes it more obvious what I'm seeing. The "left" flat is
> much
> > more compressed than the "right" one in the doubleflat. That's all I'm
> > saying. It would seem better to me to at least have the the left counter
> > look more like the right one. Like I said before, I'm not saying it is
> > inherently wrong (nor the green version "right"), but it seems like the
> > two
> > sides to the glyph could look more similar. Maybe I'm the only one who
> > notices this.
>
> I don't have double flat examples from real music, but can show what
> Sibelius, Bravura, and Elaine Gould offer.  These are similar to your
> suggestion.  It would be interesting to try to find some real-world
> examples
> from published scores.
>
> Gould also says: "double flat: two flat signs are placed together and
> (usually) touching".  This also implies they should be similar or the same.
>

I agree with Gould, but I would follow what she says more than what she
shows in the book since she uses Sibelius' default Opus font for all the
music instead of real engraving punches.

- Abraham




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