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Re: slurs and bars in vocal music


From: Mats Bengtsson
Subject: Re: slurs and bars in vocal music
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:01:16 +0200
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I don't understand how \override Slur #'stencil = ##f can solve any problems, since you have to insert the corresponding beams manually to get the correct melisma. Why not use your text editor to replace each ( by a [ and each ) by a ] ? This, combined with \autoBeamOff, will give the desired beams, absence of slurs and melismas.

If you want to do the setting corresponding to \autoBeamOff for the full file, just add
\layout{
 \context{
   \Score
   autoBeaming = ##f
 }
}
at the top of the file.

  /Mats

fiëé visuëlle wrote:
Am 2009-09-25 um 16:21 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:

my editor tells me, in vocal music eights (everything smaller than a quarter) have to be normally unbarred and I should use barred eights instead of slurs.

That is *not* modern practice... I would *strongly* recommend that you try to convince your editor to use modern practice (i.e., beaming to the beat, slurring for melismas), which is the current standard, not least of all because it's significantly easier for singers to read.

However, if you can't convince your editor to get into the 20th (never mind 21st) Century... ;)

Sorry, no chance - "this is common practice since Bach, and I as a seasoned choir leader" yadda yadda...

He's very much convinced that his "standard" is much easier to read for singers (it's becoming a songbook); in my choir and folk singer experience it isn't, but anyway...

Is there a global setting for that?
I know \autoBeamOn/Off (works only within a voice) and \override Slur #'stencil = ##f But this way there would be a horrendous amount of tweaking - are there better ways?

The docs at
<http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/Aligning-lyrics-to-a-melody#Aligning-lyrics-to-a-melody> have lots of related tweaks and tips — once you've completely (re-)read it, come back to the list with specific questions.


Thank you, so there's no general setup?

I defined some shortcuts for the slur tweaks, use manual beaming, will perhaps use \melisma additionally and continue to dispair.


If I switched off slurs using
\override Slur #'stencil = ##f
how do I enable it again without warnings?

\override Slur #'stencil = ##t
does work, but issues an error (#t is no stencil)


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