Re: Different size staves?

[Mats Bengtsson]

I forward this email to the bug mailing list, since I think it's time to 
take another look at issue 216, which was closed a couple of years back 
since the bug was documented as a known limitation. There are comments 
in Documentation/notation/spacing.itely about the problem. The smallest 
thing we could do would be to show a workaround like the one I included 
below (or at least point to a more complete example like the second 
Ossia example in section 1.6.2 "Modifying single staves"). However, the 
limitation that also the vertical spacing gets wrong should also be 
documented, unless we can fix the underlying problems with 
layout-set-staff-size. The question has appeared a sufficient number of 
times on the mailing lists so make it worth a serious bug report, at 
least. If we don't expect layout-set-staff-size to work properly in the 
forseeable future, why not simply remove it altogether since it's not 
better than setting fontSize?


If I understand you correctly, you have multiple \score blocks in the 
same file and want to use different staff sizes for the different 
scores. The best option that I know of is to use what you already have 
tried. If you want to get the correct staff spacing when using 
layout-set-staff-size, you could use
\score{
 \relative c'{c4 d e f g f e d c1 }
\layout{
 #(layout-set-staff-size 15)
 \context{
   \Staff
   \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(/ 15 20)
 }
}
}

but it still gives too wide vertical spacing.

   /Mats

Todd O'Bryan wrote:
> I'm going to export the two music snippets to EPS and paste them into
> OpenOffice. When I finish, I'll post the PDF so you can see what I was
> going for and see if there's any way to achieve it inside Lilypond.
> Sorry about not trying harder before going to EPS, but we're singing
> this on Christmas Eve, so I think the choir director would like it
> soon. :-)
>
> Todd
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Marc Hohl <address@hidden> wrote:
>   
> > Todd O'Bryan schrieb:
> >     
> > > I just started using Lilypond and am loving it. But I have a rare use
> > > case and am having trouble.
> > >
> > > I'm trying to set Anglican chant--basically there are several bars of
> > > whole and half notes on a grand staff that get matched up with text
> > > below. That part is easy, I'll just use a markup section to handle the
> > > text.
> > >
> > > But there's a refrain at the top and because of the lyrics, it needs
> > > to be fairly large. I'd like the chanting notes smaller, since they
> > > don't have lyrics and could probably fit on a single line, but I can't
> > > figure out how to make the second score a different size from the
> > > first.
> > >
> > >       
> > I am not sure what you want to achieve - do you have a visual example
> > (some scans perhaps)?
> >
> > Marc
> >     
> > > I've tried the layout-set-staff-size trick, but the lines don't get
> > > any smaller. I've used \with to make the fontSize and staff-space
> > > smaller, but even when I get the notes and staves so that they're
> > > reduced in size, the spacing hasn't changed at all and I still have
> > > the same number of measures across as I did at full size. (They just
> > > look a lot more airy.)
> > >
> > > Is there any way to do this, or should I just typeset the two scores
> > > separately, convert them to EPS, and then paste them into a LaTeX
> > > document or something similar?
> > >
> > > Thanks for a great program,
> > > Todd O'Bryan
> > >
> > >
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