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Re: unalign candanza like multimeasure improvisation


From: Neil Thornock
Subject: Re: unalign candanza like multimeasure improvisation
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:40:58 -0600

Maybe you want proportional notation:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Proportional-notation#Proportional-notation

A bit involved, but worth the effort once you get it working right.

On 5/19/10, tiM Sportny <address@hidden> wrote:
>
>
> Niel Thornock:
>> Hi Tim,
>> How does it "get worse"? I've done similar things, scaling durations
>> in the free part, with perfectly acceptable results. I'm not sure
>> here which exact problems you are encountering.
>
> It's not that LP does anything wrong, I'm looking for a way to let LP do it
> wrong. So in the example below, i want equal spacing between the eights, no
> matter what's happening in the improvisation measure below it. Looking at
> the example the notes in the upper measure are "making room" for what
> happens in the improvisation measure below it. But since i don't care about
> timing i'd prefer the notes to be equidistant. And this also works the other
> way around. The glissando from the low to the ases is making room for two
> eights above, making the glissando wider, but again, I don't want LP to care
> about that.
>
> With "getting worse" i mean that the stuff i've tried (like temporarily
> setting the timing off) only has side effects and not the intended result.
>
>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:10 AM, tiM Sportny  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear List,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to write down improvisation clues that have to be played
>>> within a few measures. Since these are just clues/suggestions there is no
>>> need to align the notes with other staves, i.e. I don't want it to be
>>> aligned.
>>>
>>> In the example below, the only thing LP should care about is that the
>>> total size of the upper measures matches the total size of the
>>> "improvisation measure" below it. It shouldn't care about which note
>>> comes first, since the one playing the solo, shouldn't care about it
>>> either. (of course this is just a silly simplified example).
>>>
>>> Has anyone had any experience with this? I've tried a lot of things, but
>>> it only seemed to get worse and worse.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> \version "2.12.0"
>>>
>>> improv = { \relative c''{ \scaleDurations #'( 16 . 17 ){ b8[ des b deses
>>> b des b deses b deses b] ases4 \glissando ases' \glissando a, }}}
>>>
>>> \score {
>>>     \new StaffGroup <<
>>>         \new Staff {
>>>             \repeat unfold 8 b8
>>>             \repeat unfold 8 b8
>>>             \repeat unfold 8 b8
>>>             \repeat unfold 8 b8
>>>         }
>>>         \new Staff {
>>>             R1
>>>             \cadenzaOn
>>>              \improv
>>>             \cadenzaOff
>>>             \bar "|"
>>>             R1
>>>         }
>>>   >>
>>>
>>>
>>>     \layout {
>>>         \context {
>>>         \Score
>>>         \remove "Timing_translator"
>>>         \remove "Default_bar_line_engraver"
>>>         \remove "Bar_number_engraver"
>>>
>>>         }
>>>         \context {
>>>         \Staff
>>>         \consists "Timing_translator"
>>>         \consists "Default_bar_line_engraver"
>>>         }
>>>     }
>>> }
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Neil Thornock, D.M.
>> The recent BYU Symphony Orchestra performance of Plutoids:
>> http://neilthornock.net/mp3s/plutoids.mp3
>> Assistant Professor of Music
>> Composition/Theory
>> Brigham Young University
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-- 
Neil Thornock, D.M.
The recent BYU Symphony Orchestra performance of Plutoids:
http://neilthornock.net/mp3s/plutoids.mp3
Assistant Professor of Music
Composition/Theory
Brigham Young University



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