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RE: expressive marks inside slurs


From: James Lowe
Subject: RE: expressive marks inside slurs
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:39:00 +0000

Paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Scott [mailto:address@hidden
> Sent: 26 January 2011 04:45
> To: James Lowe
> Cc: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: expressive marks inside slurs
> 
> On 01/25/2011 01:48 PM, James Lowe wrote:
> > Paul
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Scott<address@hidden>
> > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:36:23 -0700
> > To: "address@hidden"<address@hidden>
> > Subject: expressive marks inside slurs
> >
> >
> >> 2.13.46:
> >>
> >> I've been searching the documentation and the web for a while trying
> >> to get accents, etc. inside slurs.
> >>
> >> 1.  What draws accents, turns, etc.?
> >>
> > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-
> > attac
> > hed-to-notes
> >
> > To get them 'inside' slurs see a few paragraphs down
> >
> > 'Controlling the vertical ordering of scripts'
> >
> > You need to set the priority of the relevant mark - the example should
> > give you the hints.
> >
> 
> Ok.  Since a slur doesn't seem to be a script I went back to trying:
> 
> \override Slur #'outside-staff-priority = #-1
> 
> after putting it nearer the relevant music code it did move the expressive
> marks inside but the vertical spacing increased drastically and produced the
> strange result shown by the code below.  Why aren't the accents and
> portatos the same distance from the noteheads as the staccato marks are?
> They seem to follow the curve of the slur.
> 
> Thanks for your help so far.  I had read that part of the documentation and it
> didn't seem to make sense since it talked about scripts.
> 
> I would still like to know where in the Internals Reference I can find the
> tweakable properties of accents, etc.

It's the 'etc.' bit that bothers me in that this is not a simple one line 
answer, and the answer is 'it depends'

There is a very good section in the Learning Manual

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/learning/the-internals-reference-manual

That walks you through various scenarios (in fact the first one is a 'slur').

And this should show you how to find which context and grob you need to modify 
for a particular object.

James



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