Re: Help with Section Sequence

[jakob lund]

Hi Javier

2011/4/17 Javier Ruiz-Alma <address@hidden>:
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Javier Ruiz-Alma
>>>>>> To: LilyPond User Group
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:50 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Help with Section Sequence
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>> Please check the attached sample PDF and reply if I need to change
>>>>>> way these
>>>>>> sections should be performed.
>>>>>> This will help me build a correct MIDI block and play this as
>>>>>> intended.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> sequence shown sounds a bit weird to me when I listen to the MIDI and
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> suspect I'm just not reading this correctly.
>>>>>> Thanks, Javier
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>2011/4/15 Phil Holmes:
>>>>>
>>>>> That's how I would perform it.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Phil Holmes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>________________________________
>>>>Hi Phil
>>>>
>>>>I may be wrong, but:
>>>>I don't think the MIDI output includes the repetitions, so the MIDI
>>>>will just play sec A, sec B, sec C of this example
>>>>As far as I know, you have to use \repeat unfold to get repetitions in
>>>> the
>>>> MIDI.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>
>>>>Jakob.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>> Hi Jakob,
>>> The command \unfoldRepeats will do this.
>>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Repeats-in-MIDI
>>> Attached is the .ly file I created for this snippet.
>>>
>>> Javier
>> ________________________________
>>From: jakob lund
>>Hola
>>
>>Ooh nice, didn't know that one.
>>And in fact, I think I now understand what your original question was.
>>
>>To notate the performance sequence you describe, the annotation at the
>>end should be "D.S. al fine" (D.C. means da capo, from the top, while
>>D.S., dal segno, means from the sign)
>>Also, the segno mark shouldn't be printed over the last bar line.
>>
>>Finally, I'm purty sure that the custom is to print the word "fine" in
>>lowercase italics, and above the system.
>>
>>
>>Hopefully I'm not making a fool of myself here by stating the obvious...
>>Cheers
>>
>>Jakob.
> ________________________________
>
> Hello Jakob,
> A bit of background: I'm typesetting a collection of 19th century minuets
> into lilypond and would also like to get the most approximate MIDI.  Several
> scores in the collection were annotated by the author with the same
> structure as in the attached PDF...with the following caveats:
> -where the Segnos are shown, the author placed two segnos, one above treble
> staff, another below bass staff
> -The bar with 'fine' is a finale-type chord, of course, while
> -The bar going into the first Segno has the same finale-type chord, but with
> a second voice or accompaniment to continue the piece.
>
> You're exactly right, the sequence I initially proposed doesn't match with
> "D.C. al Segno".
> Here's the next sequence iteration I'm leaning more towards:
> |Sect A|Sect A|Sect B|Sect B|Sect C|From start of Sect A to Segno|
> However: play the last bar going into Segno in same way as the one marked
> 'fine' (i.e. just play the resolution/finale chord).
>
> I would've liked to attach the original score, but it's one page in a PDF
> document with 90+pages and I don't have any app to extract a single page out
> of the very large PDF document.
> Lastly, I still have no explanation for why the author added Segnos to the
> end of the score, except to think these scores being part of an old
> piano tutorial, his intent was to show the student " 'Da Capo al Segno' that
> looks like 'S%' ".
>
> Let me know what you think. Javier
>
>

I can't make sense of it. My guess is that the author (or copyist)
mistook DC for DS, so that the sequence you have in your PDF is
correct.


Cheers
Jakob