Re: slashSeparator-question

[Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger]

Thanks Phil and eluze,

with your information I found my way around. One of the tricks was, that I 
didn't recognize, that the separator symbol is constructed from the beam-glyph. 
Thanks a lot! I had been fiddling around with that for a long time. Would a 
user handle for positioning the separator and a collision avoidance for it be a 
feature worthwhile including in a future version of Lilypond?

Best regards,

Kai

Am 14.9.2012 um 04:50 schrieb eluze:

> 
> Phil Holmes-2 wrote
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: ""Dr. med. Kai Lautenschläger"" <dr.lautenschlaeger@>
>> To: "lilypond-user User" <lilypond-user@>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 3:33 PM
>> Subject: slashSeparator-question
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> in my scores I usually use the command: system-separator-markup = 
>> \slashSeparator
>> within the /paper-block. Sometimes at the same time I want very narrow 
>> distances between staves (system-system-spacing). After searching the 
>> manuals I couldn't find an answer to two questions concerning this symbol.
>> I 
>> read there, that I can use any /markup-block for system-separator-markup 
>> but:
>> 
>> 1. Sometimes the slashSeparator comes very close to the bar-numbering of
>> the 
>> first staff. Is it possible to pad the slashSeparator in any way. For that
>> I 
>> would - as I understand it - have to know the context in which the symbol
>> is 
>> set.
>> 
>> 2. I can not change the size (I would like for it to be larger) of the 
>> symbol. If I am not mistaken I would need a possibility to directly name
>> the 
>> glyph. But I can't find a hint, where the gylph comes form (what font,
>> maybe 
>> a glyph-name). Can anyone point me to that information?
>> 
>> Maybe I searched for the wrong keywords or didn't understand the manual.
>> Any 
>> tip is very welcome!…
>> 
>> =====================================================================
>> 
>> A search of the source code gives:
>> 
>> slashSeparator = \markup {
>>  \center-align
>>  \vcenter \combine
>>  \beam #2.0 #0.5 #0.48
>>  \raise #0.7 \beam #2.0 #0.5 #0.48
>> }
>> 
>> So - as the name implies, system-separator-markup simply uses markup as
>> its 
>> argument, so you could put any valid markup there, I believe.  However, I 
>> don't think there is any collision avoidance done with the separator and
>> the 
>> staves.
>> 
>> 
> 
> maybe playing with the numbers below could achieve it:
> 
> \paper {
>  mySlashSeparator = \markup {
>      \left-align
>      \raise #-2
>      \combine
>      \beam #4.0 #.2 #0.24
>      \raise #0.7
>      \beam #4.0 #.2 #0.24
>    }
>  }
>  system-separator-markup = \mySlashSeparator
>       system-system-spacing = #'(
>       (basic-distance . 12)
>       (minimum-distance . 5)
>       (padding . 0)
>       (stretchability . 99)
>  )
> }
> \header {
> }
> \score {
>  \new Voice {
>    \repeat unfold 16 {
>      c'''4 c' c' c' |
>      c'4 c' c' c' |
>      c4 c' c' c' | \break
>    }
>  }
> }
> 
> maybe you also want to shift the sparator horizontally: simply use \hspace
> #2 above or look for a more elaborated way in the German LilyPond forum:
> http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=750.0
> 
> as  Phil mentioned there seems to be no collision avoidance.
> 
> Eluze