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Re: A must-see for anybody on this list


From: Joseph Rushton Wakeling
Subject: Re: A must-see for anybody on this list
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:40:19 +0100
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On 02/12/2013 03:05 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
The advantage LilyPond has over the hand engraver is that it does not
need to say "I don't make mistakes".  The hand engraver puts down the
staff lines, and short of throwing the plate(s) away and starting over,
the layout has to fit those lines, and the page breaks have to match
those bars in eternity.  And "give me that transposed for Bb" is an
inexpensive option, as well as "can you play that for me?".

That's something of a dangerous assumption. Consider this little snippet, where a trill-with-accidental is included according to the instructions on articulations and ornamentations:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attached-to-notes#articulations-and-ornamentations

{
  \once \override Script #'script-priority = #-100
  a'\trill^\markup{ \flat }
}

i.e. an A trilling with B flat. Now compare what comes out of a transposition to the key of B flat:

{
  \transpose bes c' {
    \once \override Script #'script-priority = #-100
    a'\trill^\markup{ \flat }
  }
}

... which gives you a B natural trilling with C flat, whereas you _want_ to see a B natural trilling with C natural.

This is a general problem of most computer notation programs, not just Lilypond -- friends who work extensively on film/TV scores or who do regular workshops with composition students in music colleges encounter these sorts of issues all the time.

The other very typical one is seeing things like F-flats and B-sharps scattered throughout an atonal score, because the automated transposition rules assume tonal music.

Like with CNC-milling of violins, or the tuning of organs, the advantage
of the craftsman is not being consistently more precise than a machine,
but of being able to focus precision and perceived precision on those
aspects where they really count for human observers.

Indeed, and you can extend that to things like transposition -- even without the mistakes in automation such as those described above, it may be convenient to transpose a given note or passage in a slightly different way, to make it appear "nicer" from the point of view of the player.



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