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Re: Crowd engraving project


From: Michał Konopacki
Subject: Re: Crowd engraving project
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:30:10 +0200
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Hello List!

First of all let me thank you all developers for creating and maintaing this wonderful program. My name is Michał and for quite a few months I observe the List, althought didn't have opportunity to help, nor ask for it because as yet I found all solutions to my problems in archives and documentation.

Let me introduce myself. I'm active Youth Choir singer ( 8th year for now) - not professional although we are working with professional orchestras from time to time and taking a part in international choral competitions about once a year. I'm passionate of choral music, and I treat it as important part of my life. Recently I undertook a task to rewrite short (10-15 min) orchestral piece of the founder and very first conductor of our choir.
I chose Lilypond as a tool mostly because of its text foundations (primary there was a plan to collaborate with others) and possibility to structure the project according to our needs. Althought the work is not yet finished, I'm amazed of the program's performance mostly because the output of instrumetal parts looks almost exactly the same as handwritten scores (which were very well designed), and I done only a very few tweaks (I'm still a Lilypond noob)
Besides I work in a software company, so the is no problem with VCSs (git, svn).

I would be very happy to give back something to the community and take part in this experiment and create a real product which will be used by others. Also I'm very interested in organisational concepts in this Project - I feel I'll learn a lot!

Best Regards
Michał Konopacki

W dniu 2014-08-22 14:26, Urs Liska pisze:
Hi all,
 
thank you for all the interest. Together with the other people already in the project we'll be able to make a good example how fast a score can grow :-)

I'll give more details when I'm back from holidays (very soon unfortunately), only a few cpmments for now (sorry for bot threading that properly).

The material to work with is significantly better than what you have now.

Any amount of contribution is welcome. You just have to take into account the effort of setting everything up and getting acquainted with the project.

Musicological expertise is not required. Nor are programming skills.

One works with files containing one voice for one rehearsal mark. That reduces waiting times for recompilation..
It seems best to enter all voices for a rehearsal mark in one unit of work. That way one can make most use of copy and paste as there is much duplication of voices in the score.

The piece hasn't been performed in the last 100 or so years - so no, there is no recording. But I can (privately) share some other recordings to get into the mood of the music.
(The concert we're preparing this for will be recorded and broadcast in the radio btw).

That's what comes to my mind for now - kids urgently need me in the water :-)

Best
Urs

On 22. August 2014 11:32:26 MESZ, Phil Holmes <address@hidden> wrote:
Count me in for some work.
 
Are the scans really that bad? I often use scanning to create musicXML, and this will clearly not work here: but I'm not convinced I could even get the notes with the patent Holmes eye scan method?
 
I'm also presuming from your comments that there's no music to listen to that could be used to check the work?

--
Phil Holmes
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Urs Liska
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:31 PM
Subject: Crowd engraving project

Hi all,

this has been discussed before, but now's the time to repeat the "call for participation" for our crowd engraving project with "Das trunkne Lied", a large scale orchestral work by Oskar Fried.

We are looking for people to enter and proofread music in a peer review workflow and who are interested in discussing and experiencing a proof-of-concept crowd engraving project.

We expect some experience with LilyPond and romantic orchestral music. Our workflows are based on Git and some related concepts so you should either know that or are willing to learn it on the job. This is definitely possible but we won't be able to do too much hand-holding.

There are two targets to meet: we should deliver audio files for the choir and soloists by end of September and instrumental parts by the end of the year. So far it is only targeted at "usable" and not "publication" quality.
The music comprises 90 "segments" (respectively rehearsal marks), and one usually has to deal with only one instrument / one segment at once).

This is a paid job - but please don't expect this to be anywhere near appropriate. We're doing this as a proof of concept, for an amateur orchestra.

You can see the material at http://beautifulscores.net/fried/ - an extremely sketchy site that I put together using an SSH client on my mobile - we'll dive right into it when I've returned from holidays.

If you're interested (and this also goes for those who had already expressed interest last year) please contact me privately, on this list or on the project mailing list http://lists.ursliska.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/das-trunkne-lied

I'm looking forward to any contact .
.
Best wishes
Urs


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