RE: [Myexperiment-discuss] Spam as comments

[David R Newman]

Hi David,

I was talking to Don on Friday and we agreed that a set of comments for a
workflow are like a thread in a forum (where the topic is the workflow
itself).  Most forums have moderators which are analogous to curators in our
scenario.  This would obviously require a continuous commitment by curators
to deal with reports of inappropriate posts, which is beyond the occasional
curation sweep that has been proposed.  To that end, reporting of posts
should probably be limited to logged in users.

Comments on things like users or groups should obviously be removable by the
user or group admin it concerns.  Of course all users should be able to
remove their own comments and curators should be able to remove comments as
they see fit.  However, I believe all comments should be retained in the
database with a lazy delete flag in case of later dispute.  A user should
also probably be informed if a comment they have made has been removed.

Regards

David Newman

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 28 November 2009 11:03
To: David Withers; 'myExperiment'
Subject: RE: [Myexperiment-discuss] Spam as comments

Hi David

This is a good point and relevant to our current discussions as we are in
the process of introducing more curation and admin support.  We are also
introducing some assisted curation so that some annotation occurs
automatically and flags items for review by the "humans in the loop".

It's another example of differences between e.g. the facebook model and what
researchers may require.  On facebook you can delete comments you make and
so can others e.g. if you respond to someone's status and they don't like
the response they can delete your comment.  In scientific discourse one
might argue this is like deleting a letter responding to a paper!

Thanks

-- Dave

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of David Withers
Sent: 27 November 2009 17:48
To: 'myExperiment'
Subject: Re: [Myexperiment-discuss] Spam as comments

Yes, you would report the comment as spam and then a moderator/admin 
could delete the comment.

If users can delete comments on their workflows then they can delete any 
comments that they don't like. If someone were to leave a comment such 
as: "WARNING - This is a malicious workflow that will delete files from 
your disk - use at your own risk", I would prefer that the workflow 
uploader wasn't allowed to delete the message without a moderator 
checking it first.

David.

Paul Fisher wrote:
> That would mean classifying things as spam before you can delete it.
> 
> Paul.
> 
> David Withers wrote:
>> Can you delete all comments or only spam comments? If a user can 
>> delete any comment then they can delete negative comments too.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Don Cruickshank wrote:
>>> OK - you can now delete the spam comments.
>>>
>>> Don.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: address@hidden
>>> [mailto:address@hidden On
>>> Behalf Of Paul Fisher
>>> Sent: 27 November 2009 11:44
>>> Cc: 'myExperiment'
>>> Subject: Re: [Myexperiment-discuss] Spam as comments
>>>
>>> Excellent. Thank you.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Don Cruickshank wrote:
>>>> No, but I'll add that feature now.
>>>>
>>>> Don.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: address@hidden
>>>> [mailto:address@hidden 
>>>> On Behalf Of Paul Fisher
>>>> Sent: 26 November 2009 17:39
>>>> To: myExperiment
>>>> Subject: [Myexperiment-discuss] Spam as comments
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Further to the discussions about spamming - I noticed that one of my 
>>>> workflows has had some spam added as a comment:
>>>> http://www.myexperiment.org/workflows/10?version=4
>>>> Is there anyway for regular users to remove comments?
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Paul
>>>>
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