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Re: Bundles in Agora


From: Wendy Liu
Subject: Re: Bundles in Agora
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:07:06 -0400



On 22 October 2012 08:07, Juan Pablo Carbajal <address@hidden> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:09 PM, c. <address@hidden> wrote:
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> On 15 Oct 2012, at 16:14, Juan Pablo Carbajal wrote:
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>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Carnë Draug <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> On 9 October 2012 23:48, c. <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 9 Oct 2012, at 22:10, address@hidden wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Regarding your future stuff. "A bundle management system (so that
>>>>> users can rename, delete, and add files after creating a bundle)", I
>>>>> think wee need more basic functionality before this.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, if possible I'd prefer if you could NOT implement this functionality at all.
>>>> I'd rather have users upload complete releases of their bundles.
>>>> For managing incremental changes to single files I believe using a revision control system
>>>> would more appropriate.
>>>>
>>>> That's just me though ...
>>>
>>> It's not just you, you are right. This functionality is not desirable
>>> at all. It's just making easier for all octave programmers that call
>>> themselves non-programmers to shoot themselves on the foot.
>>>
>>> Carnë
>>
>> Hi Wendy,
>>
>> I am sorry I did not answer your e-mail. I haven't been getting
>> messages from the mailing list (some mail problem at the uni). I saw
>> your answers thanks to your post in planet Octave. Thank you fro your
>> continuous update!
>>
>> Regarding your question:
>>
>>> The rating/feedback functionality is a good idea. Do you have any thoughts
>>> on how it should work? For instance, should the rating be a number (say, out
>>> of 5), and should anonymous users be allowed to rate things? The more ideas
>>> you have for this the better!
>>
>> The method I thought would be useful is the one of the "like", "do not
>> like", with comments (something like youtube). Anonymous users
>> shouldn't be able to vote. It would be nice to have a download counter
>> as well, this one counting all download from anonymous and registered
>> users. The idea is that one would be able to make a search and order
>> by downloads and rate. I would start with something as simple as
>> possible, we just need what we have in the forums.
>> Eventually it would be very useful to have the possibility to flag
>> bundles but for this we will need special users, like admins, etc...
>> and this is too much... like in stackoverflow... lets leave it for the
>> future.
>>
>> Again, the simple, the better.
>>
>> All this in view of considering one of the uses of Agora to
>> recruit/detect future collaborators.
>>
>>
>> Thanks and good luck!
>
>
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I just prepared new releases for some packages in Octave-Forge and I tried to upload them
> to Agora in order to test the bundle-submission system.
>
> Here are some comments you may (or may not) find useful to improve its functionality.
>
> 1) "Description"
>    Bundles formatted as Octave loadable packages do include a "DESCRIPTION" file,
>    wouldn't it be possible to parse that directly as it is currently done to create
>    the package page on Octave-Forge?
>
> 2) Docs
>    When uploading a package on Octave-Forge we include a set of html files with the package
>    documentation that are automatically generated using the "generate_package_html" function.
>    Wouldn't it be possible to allow users to upload such files on Agora as well and show them
>    instead of the bundle file listing?
>
> 3) Browsing bundle contents
>    I don't think the ability to browse the contents of all the files in a bundle makes much
>    sense, it would be better to just show the description, index, license and possibly
>    the HTML docs.
>
>
> 3) "Name" field.
>    It would be nice to add a warning under the field title specifying the acceptable
>    format for the field to avoid trial-and-error
>
> 4) "Paste it" button.
>    Shouldn't this read "Upload" in this context?
>
> 5) Formatted and unformatted bundles.
>    These suggestions are biased towards the case were bundles being uploaded are in the format
>    required by the Octave package manager ("pkg.m"), you might want to add a flag in the upload
>    page that allows to specify whether the bundle peing uploaded is formatted according to this
>    format or not and behave differently in the two cases.
>
> These are just my two cents, others may think differently.
> Anyways, starts to look very nice, keep up the very good work!
> Thanks,
> Carlo
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I subscribe to 1), 3)"Name", 4) and 5).

Cheers

Thanks Juan and Carlo for your feedback. I'm going to be pretty busy with school for the next few days, but I'll work on addressing your comments on Thursday or Friday. In the meantime if there are any other comments I'd love to hear them and will get to them as soon as I get a chance.

-Wendy

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