Re: [Pan-users] Re: Save Article

[Vigil]

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003, Duncan 1i5t5.duncan-at-cox.net |Pan Users' Mailing List| 
wrote:

>Vigil posted <address@hidden>,
>excerpted below,  on Sun, 28 Dec 2003 01:03:50 +0000:
>
>> I'll give that a go, but it would be nice to have a simple File | Save
>> Article...
>>
>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Michael R. McCarrey wa7qzr-at-myrealbox.com |Pan
>> Users' Mailing List| wrote:
>>
>>>Have you tried the "Copy to Folder" option?
>
>Top posters.. GRR..  There's a reason PAN discourages the practice. =:^)
>
>I'm not quite plain on what exactly you are trying to do, but if the save
>article text from the save-as dialog doesn't do it (it saves to the file
>system), and the copy-to-folder (which saves to PAN's fake local server, the
>one it uses to track sent posts, and etc, but you get to create your own folder
>aka "group" name) doesn't do it..
>
>Occasionally, folks have wanted a method to get at the raw post text, in its
>entirety, including all headers and body (thus, both attachments and text).
>If this is what you are after..
>
>PAN saves the posts in that format in its cache, with the msg-ID header as the
>file name (subject of course to modification where necessary to work with the
>file system the cache is on, in terms of allowed characters and filename
>length), and the .msg extension (from memory..).  Thus, you can hit the
>view-headers hotkey or set PAN to always show msg-id, and then go find the
>message in the cache.
>
>Of course, if you have a cache of any size, such as my normal 2-4 gig cache
>(set for 4 gig in PAN -- I was the one that asked for the bump-up in the max
>from the original one-gig, that was deleting messages b4 I could get to them at
>times), be sure not to load it in Konqueror or anything else that does a bunch
>of extra stuff such as read the files to set up the correct icon, or you could
>be waiting for awhile for the cache to load. Here, I find mc (Midnight
>Commander, text mode) perfect for such tasks.
>
>There are two other alternatives.  One is to never load the cache dir in its
>entirety at all, but just specify the file name directly in your text editor or
>whatever you are loading it into.
>
>The second just occurred to me, as a result of reading MRMC's copy to folder
>suggestion.  If you copy the post to a PAN folder, the same post is again saved
>in raw format, but in the folder you copied it to.  If you create a working
>folder for just this purpose, you can copy raw posts to it, do what you are
>going to do with them, then delete or move them elsewhere, thus, keeping the
>actual file system dir small enough to have no problems loading it in your file
>manager of choice, even if it DOES spend time scanning each file to assign the
>appropriate icon, as does Konqueror, for instance.
>
>Of course, the real problem comes when the post crashes pan when U try to read
>it, say, to report the details as a bug.  <g> In that case, you can't GET the
>msg-id, and may not even be able to copy it to folder without viewing it (tho
>that's a worthwhile technique I'll have to try, if it ever happens to me again,
>now that MRMC gave me the idea).  In that case, it can come down to doing a
>file content search on the entire cache, based on what IS known about the post,
>from the overview (aka "header", tho that's not technically correct, since it
>doesn't include all the headers, only those available using overview) pane,
>such as author, subject, date, etc. I know, it's happened to me b4.  =:^)

Yeesh. I appreciate your fingerwork, but it'd be simpler to File | Save
Attachments and choose Article Text!

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